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Location: Green Bay, WI | ...there you go, using logic again. Sheesh!
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | learntoswim - 5/2/2012 2:19 PM
BNelson - 5/1/2012 2:09 PM
saltwater guys just crimp leaders and catch 1000 lb tuna w "just" a crimped leader....and we are worried about a 40 lb musky if we are lucky enough to hook a 40 lber... ;-)
lol so true,some musky guys just love to exaggerate other thing than the size of their fish
Wait till you backlash a New Mag Dawg or Pounder with your home made crimped leader. LOL LOL |
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Location: Grinnell, Iowa | PIKEMASTER - 5/1/2012 5:13 PM
learntoswim - 5/1/2012 4:46 PM
PIKEMASTER - 4/30/2012 3:17 PM
Just buy STEALTH LEADERS they have a nail knot, a crimp and are glued. they come in 130, 150, and 180lb, Also any one using F/C Leaders under 130lb why ????
is that possible for me to make my own?
do you think that company is the only that can make leaders under these specs?
I have tried to make my own, and what a mess, F/C line is very hard to work with in 130lb and up and the nail knot is almost impossible to get it to close up. I just don't have the time to mess with leaders, plus they are one of the most important parts of catching a musky and I don't want to have a leader fail on me and loose or kill a Musky just to say I made my own leader.
I agree with you that they are one of the most important parts of catching a musky. That is why i started making my own leaders. I got tired of paying for leaders that had cheap snaps instead of good stay-loks. Also purchased many with poor knots and/or poor crimps. I put the opportunity for failure squarely in my own hands and feel more confident with my own. It's the same principal as to why most musky anglers will change out the split rings and hooks on a brand new lure. Poor/cheap terminal tackle only benefits the producer/seller not the consumer/user. |
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"Wait till you backlash a New Mag Dawg or Pounder with your home made crimped leader. LOL LOL"
Ya what will that do? My 80 or 100 pound braid will snap before any of my homemade crimped leaders will fail. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | IAJustin - 5/2/2012 2:53 PM
"Wait till you backlash a New Mag Dawg or Pounder with your home made crimped leader. LOL LOL"
Ya what will that do? My 80 or 100 pound braid will snap before any of my homemade crimped leaders will fail.
On my Mag dawg and Pounder setup I run 130lb Suffix or 150lb Power Pro Braid with 180lb STEALTH LEADERS. |
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| Once again,you fail because you can not force us to buy the''leader''
think again and comeback my friend.
btw i have never made a single backlash on a mag or on a pounder.and anyway iajustin point is true.
cant remember what was the tittle of the topic? |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | PIKEMASTER - 5/2/2012 2:46 PM
Wait till you backlash a New Mag Dawg or Pounder with your home made crimped leader. LOL LOL
I have had plenty of backlashes with my home made leaders and I have never had a problem or a failure. I have also load tested my leaders where I work and they held over 275 lbs for 175 lb leader material. I load tested leaders that have been used (nicked) as well as leaders that were brand new. The crimps did not slip or fail in any way on the sampling of leaders I tested.
I will never pay retail price for leaders again because the quality control is in my hand. I am not hinting at the quality of any one particular company, but I have had leaders that I have purchased fail due to poor quality. If a leader or crimp is not up to snuff, I have the ability and capability to fix it or scrap it.
With the amount of time it takes to make your own, make them in the off season and forget about it.
If you don't want to make your own, buy Stealth. They are the best leaders I have personally found. |
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Location: Neenah, WI | Shep,
You are a smart man!!!! Flour is just more subject to issues with teeth rocks gravel ETC!!! Check your leaders often!!!
SAINT |
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Location: Eagan, MN | BNelson, you're not the only guy with substantial experience on this board. You dismissed Shep's sample size as being inadequate, apparently without even knowing what it was, and yet your 1500 is enough? The way you're coming across is not a good look. |
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| Does Shep even fish muskies anymore? Stone Cold |
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| If you want to try tying fluorocarbon do yourself a favor and buy the Du Bro nail knotter tool. It really isn't that difficult and after selling thousands of Smity, Tug Of War, and Stealth leaders (all use nail knots) along with tying my own I have NEVER seen a properly tied nail knot fail. If you want to see a quick tutorial on building solid wire leaders here's a short film I put together about a year ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N5R74HPjs8 |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Pete nice video. But you should have instructed them on how to beak off the wire and not cut it. When you cut it it leaves a very sharp burr and that can cut you when you handle the leader to take off weeds or whatnot (you RFGuys like saying that  )
Folks what should be done is place a 90 degree bend in the tag end about a 1/4 inch from the shaft. Grab the tag as close to the shaft as you can with a locking needle nose pliers (aka vice grips) and twist on its axis. If you see the wrap coming undone, twist the other way till it breaks free.
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| Good point. In retrospect I would have done that differently...and what not. Most of the time what I do is to just make a cut or knick partially through the wire with my cutter and then bend it until it makes a clean cut. If I see that there is any of the tag end sticking up that could be sharp I usually press that down to the wire shaft using my round nose pliers. Thanks for posting your pictures too. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Peter Stoltman - 5/2/2012 10:49 PM
Most of the time what I do is to just make a cut or knick partially through the wire with my cutter and then bend it until it makes a clean cut.
That works too. But the trick comes in not nicking the wire too much and cutting it off or having it break too quickly. I also tried crushing the burr end with the pliers, but never can get it where you can run a hand on it without getting cut.
I also like to use that needle nose vise grips to hold my hooks while I sharpen hooks, Makes it easier. |
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| SC - 5/2/2012 5:15 PM
Does Shep even fish muskies anymore? Stone Cold
Why does that matter? |
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