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cast10K
Posted 2/29/2012 9:09 PM (#542693)
Subject: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
Title says it all, looking to add something a little bigger in the mix this year. The 12" Custom X looks nice, too. What does everyone like?
slimetime261
Posted 2/29/2012 10:31 PM (#542709 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 4


The custom x 16" is a pretty sweet bait a lot of action did pretty good last fall with it, But the Grandma and Jakes can produce.
thrax_johnson
Posted 3/1/2012 5:51 AM (#542737 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 313


Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion
For a bigger bait, you should try to get your hands on a Duff Thury Supernatural or Headlock. Can get Supernaturals from Bigwood, Headlocks from Thornes. That said, if you can't get one of those, I never leave the dock without a few 14in Jakes if trolling has any chance of happening. Bottom line - Thury baits or Jakes get bit and are proven producers.
millsie
Posted 3/1/2012 3:00 PM (#542858 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 189


Location: Barrington, Il
I like the 13" Granny better than the Jake.
mike
Posted 3/1/2012 4:07 PM (#542872 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?


i like the 10" slammers with the tails
pepsiboy
Posted 3/1/2012 4:56 PM (#542885 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?


bwb,plow
when i take a look at the headlock video,i tihnk that lure will do the job done
Mak51
Posted 3/1/2012 5:01 PM (#542888 - in reply to #542885)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Location: MN
I like the 12" Slammer Minnow; they are available at the shows. I haven't fished it, but the 12" Big Game looks like a sweet bait.
knooter
Posted 3/1/2012 5:11 PM (#542890 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
Headlocks, Supernaturals, 10" Slammer Deep Minnows (with trailer), Custom X. Can't go wrong with any of those, in addition to the standard Jakes and Grandmas. 13" Believers work, too...allegedly.
JKahler
Posted 3/2/2012 1:29 AM (#542985 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 1287


Location: WI
The 12" Big Games are sweet! I have to buy some 13" Grandmas before fall.
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/2/2012 6:22 AM (#542995 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Just got my new Grunts in. Also having about 100 painted up in custom colors by Tyler from Tylers Basement Bait Creations. If you have any specific color you like email me and I can forward it on to Tyler. My 16" Grunts have a ~32 wide wobble.

Here is my Grunt next to a 9" Grandma. Horrible Loch Ness Monster video but you get teh picture
http://www.youtube.com/v/vKuq5dKNFwE


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cast10K
Posted 3/2/2012 2:23 PM (#543111 - in reply to #542995)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
Thanks for the responses guys, keep them coming.

For those who like the granny over the jake, what is the reason? I do really well w/ the 10" jake.

The 12" big game looks like a great casting lure. I run the smaller sizes for casting, but I'd be concerned about the durability for trolling.
Jeff Hanson
Posted 3/2/2012 3:17 PM (#543127 - in reply to #543111)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 944


.The giant big games are very well made and good for trolling. Another real good big one is the MX12 from MuskieTrain. I got a few proto types last fall and was told to try and break them, I pounded the snot out of them into reefs on Eagle lake Ont. they held up great and caught some nice fish on them.
Good luck,
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
JKahler
Posted 3/2/2012 4:57 PM (#543161 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 1287


Location: WI
I've trolled and cast Jakes a ton, and have only caught 2 muskies on them. Grandmas... 10 fish in 2 weeks this past fall with a couple of them being big ones. I really doubt that I'll ever buy another Jake. I know other folks do well on them, who knows...maybe I'm doing it wrong! lol
dougj
Posted 3/2/2012 5:04 PM (#543164 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 906


Location: Warroad, Mn

Done well on Jakes!

Doug Johnson

cast10K
Posted 3/2/2012 7:04 PM (#543180 - in reply to #543164)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
The 14 inchers Doug?
Guest
Posted 3/3/2012 12:40 PM (#543276 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?


what's the difference between a headlock and a supernatural?
Targa01
Posted 3/3/2012 1:16 PM (#543289 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
Headlocs are thinner with a little smaller lip and made of some sort of resin (I believe) and the Bigwood Supernaturals from Kyle are thicker and made out of wood. The response I got from Duff is the Bigwoods are a little more aggressive compared to a headloc while his Liplock is the most aggressive action of all three.
knooter
Posted 3/3/2012 2:07 PM (#543306 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
Headlocks are wood, at least at this point. There were some resin versions out there, but as far as I know they are all wood now. The Supernaturals are a thicker body than the Headlocks. The Liplocks are completely different bodies. They have an aluminum beam built into the body and are indestructible.
Guest
Posted 3/3/2012 2:20 PM (#543308 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?


I take it that "aggresive" means a harder, wider wobble? Does either one seem to perform better at faster or slower speeds?
I've heard that these baits have a substantial "wander" -are they both (or all three) similar in that aspect?
Where would someone find the Liplock?
knooter
Posted 3/3/2012 4:06 PM (#543325 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
If you're looking for a Liplock, send me a PM and I'll get you some contact info. Duff builds them in small quantities and I don't believe any retailers carry them.
Mak51
Posted 3/30/2012 9:44 AM (#549526 - in reply to #543308)
Subject: RE: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Location: MN
Guest - 3/3/2012 2:20 PM

I take it that "aggresive" means a harder, wider wobble? Does either one seem to perform better at faster or slower speeds?
I've heard that these baits have a substantial "wander" -are they both (or all three) similar in that aspect?


I have the same question as Guest regarding the differences bewteen the Headlock and Supernatural. Can anyone comment on whether the Supernatural or Headlock wander more than the other?
CU301DSV
Posted 3/30/2012 12:02 PM (#549553 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 906


Location: Canada
Hosebait - 12" Hose Daddy
http://www.bigwoodmuskylures.com/lures.php?cat=crankbaits&make=Hose...

The Flat Shads are a deeper running lure than you are asking about maybe, the ones at Big Wood are only 9.5" but Shawn does make a bigger version as I have four 11.5" Flat Shads.
wallygator
Posted 3/30/2012 12:17 PM (#549556 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 319


Location: Tomahawk,Wis
My choice is the 14" Slammer and Nimmers 20" jointed....
Both are awesome baits.
Wally
DH.Pare
Posted 3/30/2012 12:52 PM (#549568 - in reply to #549556)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?




Posts: 288


Location: Montreal, Que. Canada
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Talonz "The Dragon Claw" 15 inches and wakes up at a slower speed than most for those late fall Grannies ;- )!!

David
50inchGrinch
Posted 3/30/2012 1:31 PM (#549582 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 221


13" Grandma is a favorite "hush hush" bait around my area...

Cast10K, in short, it puts a ton of big fish in the boat every fall, is more versatile (in that it can troll deeper then a Jake when needed), and I tend to favor bigger profiles overall. And there is NO comparison to the 9" version... totally different baits.
thrax_johnson
Posted 3/30/2012 6:40 PM (#549637 - in reply to #542693)
Subject: Re: Trolling: 13" Granny, or 14" Jake, or ?





Posts: 313


Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion
If forced to pick which Thury bait wanders more, I'd say the Supernatural. But Headlocks do also. Another huge advantage of these baits is the ability to use the different depth holes in the lips. The interchangeable nature is great, to add to that you can get different length pins for the line ties which can alter the lip angle and modify action even further.

Once you have one of either of these baits, you'll simply have to have more.
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