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| What happened out on the bay this fall. The last month and a half have been horrible for me. How have you done? There does not seem to be as much bait fish on the graph and years past. |
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| I've been slayin em! You must be using the wrong color! |
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| no problems here catching fish |
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| I've been slayin em! You must be using the wrong color!
Might try turning on your Sonic Hub, too.
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Location: chicago | How come when somebody is having a rough time, people find the need to beat them up. People come here to expand there know how and try to figure out whats being done wrong. Yet people hinding behind there P.C tend to bust balls. If this didnt go on maybe alot more people would share there knowledge. Know wonder must people dont share there big fish on here or there stories. For people to say something bout Tom Gelb, thats just wrong!!!! |
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| stugots4u - 11/23/2011 5:23 PM
How come when somebody is having a rough time, people find the need to beat them up. People come here to expand there know how and try to figure out whats being done wrong. Yet people hinding behind there P.C tend to bust balls. If this didnt go on maybe alot more people would share there knowledge. Know wonder must people dont share there big fish on here or there stories. For people to say something bout Tom Gelb, thats just wrong!!!!
Most muskie fishermen are insecure and need to belittle others for attention, just a natural part of what the sport has become. Just try to read around it. Much easier. H |
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| With gas high and money tight i havnt made itover there this year. Reports ive heard havent been too good. Either things have slowed down or guys are being tight lipped. B o b tourney wasnt great but neither were conditions that weekend. |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | It's been a great Fall for Green Bay. They're 10-0! Big game tomorrow, though, in the Lion's den.
Kevin
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| The city of "Green Bay" or the bay of 'Green Bay" Sorry I,ve just been wanting to say that. |
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| I think it's been super tough for everyone out there for the last month in a half... Fish should be slamming and there just nipping baits. There very weary smart fish that have been caught before |
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| I have been up several times this fall---With a guide for 2 days and also on our own a bunch of days---Overall ( compared to past years ) it has been tough. The guide we used has been guiding up there for years and said numbers were down. Alot of time and expense on the water for 3 fish we caught in 8 full days fishing. Cost was probably over $1000 per fish. ???? is it is worth it--always a chance at a large fish but way more action going north and casting / livebait fishing for them. Next year ???? Might try that lake st clair bite !!! |
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| The Bay is on the downhill schnied, has been for a year or three, and will continue to plummet until stocking numbers recover. The word on GB got out just as it was getting hot and for a while there, which was just as our heaviest stocking years were starting to really get to eyebrow-raising size.... 50"ers were basically being given away with the purchase of a launch pass. Many of those fish now adorn office or basement walls, and relatively few (some years none) were stocked to replace them. The lowest stocking years of our pre-VHS days are getting to be big fish now, once they get big and are gone, its going to be a long, quiet period on the Bay. It will be six or seven years until our inland broodstock lakes have fish old enough to "squeeze" in the springtime, and in the meantime, max capacity at the Kewaunee hatchery is ~3k fingerlings, give or take, and even getting those fish is challenging with the VHS issues and hatchery limitations.
Still big fish around, don't mean to be all doom and gloom, but reality is reality. We're dependent on stocking, of which there has been little to none of since ~2008.
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| in 89-90 there was a stocking from the l.s.clair strain. they did achieve to become good sizes. hopefully they spawned. here on st clair the release ethic is approx. 95 per-cent. thats what creates excellent fisheries. relying on stocking becomes a crutch to put and take systems. that equates to smaller fish. |
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| It is all a big cycle. Look at Mille Lacs-it was on fire for several years then everybody was saying all the muskies died. Looks like it was a huge perch hatch. Now it seems size and quantity of catches is coming back. How many shad/bait fish are in the Bay and the river? Answer: alot. Has fishing been tough the past couple of years-absolutely. It will come back around just wait. |
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| If anyone would be willing to share any tips I would appriciate it.. Please PM me. Like I said it's been a struggle. Going out one more time this year. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Today LSC is the Lake on fire, I wonder what lake it will be 5 years from now ???????????? |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Maybe Spider in Oneida County?  |
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| st clair has been on fire since 1990.. if vhs does not comebackl soon it will be showing lots of upper 40,s. thats the class that died out. presently theres literally thousands of 34-39 inch fish. as i have stated before. cpr works. |
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| Guest-
Don't/won't pretend to know a thing about Mille Lacs, but here in GB, we're dependent on stocking, period. No two ways about it. Our few years of relatively heavy saturation stocking are on us if not behind us. If I'm not mistaken, 02 and 03 were very good stocking years and it trailed off to 08 when zero fish were stocked.
Since, we've had a miniscule 3000ish fish stocked between Sturgeon Bay, across to Marinette/Menominee and on down to Green Bay. And that's what we can expect for the forseeable near future. That area is HUGE. We have basically zero natural reproduction, and we have alot of fish going home and hanging in Pa's den right now. Add to that a fair amount of delayed mortality from all the newbies dragging these fish to their death and passing them around the boat for photos, the usual "natural causes," etc. We've just got alot of things going the wrong way here in GB right now. I believe Jed Pearson (sp?) down in Indiana figured they get 20% of the fish die each year. Not sure I totally buy those numbers, but they come from an expert in that field.
These are just the facts. Don't mean to be a downer deb. Still big fish to be found, and GB will likely always be a land of giants. But are numbers are down and are going down. Like it or not.
Our problem is math.
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Location: Mallard Island Lake Vermilion MN | Maybe push for law / rule for not being able to remove fish from water period.
Total Water release.
Like some coastal waters have for Grouper or Tarpon like that.
Might help?
Maybe go as far as no kept fish...release only?
Just an idea.
Kind of a shame to kill a big fish for the wall...ever.
Education to the bone thill yer carzy in the main brain helps... but for some nothing stops garb an grin pics or north south gill holds or bottom of the boat tape meassuring an wrastling.
Sorry to hear bad things about Green Bay area any time ......always have fun when I have been there for what ever reason.
Peace.
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| To many shad out there the last 2 years if u asked me. No stocking means no small dumb ones for anyone to catch. There are plenty of 40"- 50" fish out there. Eventually there will be a surplus of 30"-40" fish and big ones will be few and far between but not yet. |
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