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Location: 0 | It seems like everytime I get a follow the musky will follow it for half of the figure 8 then disappear back into the depths. Yesterday for example I had one in the mid 40s follow it on the figure 8 but quicky lost interest. I went back about an hour later and the same thing happened. I ve heard of people having a soft plastic grub tied on another rod for these followers. Is this generally an effective technique or do muskys usually hit on the figure 8 if they are going to hit? |
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| pretty typical scenario there! there is a few things you can do, try throwing some other baits like a slow moving wtd topwater or ripping a bucktail, maybe come back on her during some sort of major or minor or during anything that could cause a feeding window, some fisherman will camp out there on them and pound them to death until a short feeding window may open and the fish could feed then too, good luck |
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| If I see them doing that I either assume they have just ate or have just been caught. I'll try them again in a window, and either throw a plastic or a showgirl. If they don't hit that then I wait til dusk or another day. |
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Location: WI | leech lake strain - 9/24/2011 8:54 PM
some fisherman will camp out there on them and pound them to death until a short feeding window may open and the fish could feed then too,
I won't work a fish hard unless it's hot to begin with. I think you'll just burn it out and push it off the spot. Ty Sennett told me about a 48" class fish that one of his clients camped on for most of a day, he said they never saw that fish again for the rest of the season.
Sometimes they're just not going to eat, and there's nothing you can do to change that. At least they let you know where they live!
Edited by JKahler 9/25/2011 12:09 AM
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| I have a similar question. After I get a follow I will usually hang around about a dozen more casts and move out as not to push the fish out. But when I return I dont know weather to stick with the bait that got her attention in the first place or try something else. I've both stuck it out with the original bait and changed it up with something different with mixed results. what are your guys thoughts. |
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Location: Michigan | If the fish is hot on the bait and won't commit I usually leave the spot immediately then return 20-30 minutes later and throw a weagle on the fish. |
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| First thing I usually do is back my boat off. A hot following fish tells me I am too close and she needs some space. If she still follows with next few cast or I don't see her I will throw back a bait of the opposite specrum such as if I get a follow on a bucktail and she was hot I will try a jerk/twitch bait...on the other hand if she seemed slow I would try a bulldawg/tube bait. If I still don't see her I will continue fishing the structure upwind as she may be on the move specially in early/mid fall...late fall I would work her more than normally or frequent the spot as by late fall their generally nestled in for the year. But who knows. |
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| Not quite sure how your technique is with the figure 8 once the musky gets close to the boat. You may want to consider changing depths of your lure through the "8" or instead of the figure eight give the musky a huge oval. In regards to the throw back lure try downsizing your lure, I recall I had a low 40's follow on a shallow invader and I told my Dad to pitch out his 6" shallow raider. Good Luck! |
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| Sorry forgot to use the' ole' preview button. Anyway, the shallow raider got smashed at the boat. |
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Location: 0 | I had another question about the figure 8. Have you had the best luck doing the figure 8 at the same speed as your retrieve or have you found it better to speed up the retrieve on the 8? |
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Location: Not far enough north! | tnmusky - 9/26/2011 5:10 PM
I had another question about the figure 8. Have you had the best luck doing the figure 8 at the same speed as your retrieve or have you found it better to speed up the retrieve on the 8?
That all depends on the fish's mood. Sometimes they want it hot sometimes not. The more fish you catch the more you will be able to read their mood when they come to the boat. But in general I usually at least speed up in the first turn to see how the fish reacts and if they are hot it usually only takes one turn... |
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| JKahler - 9/25/2011 12:08 AM
leech lake strain - 9/24/2011 8:54 PM
some fisherman will camp out there on them and pound them to death until a short feeding window may open and the fish could feed then too,
I won't work a fish hard unless it's hot to begin with. I think you'll just burn it out and push it off the spot. Ty Sennett told me about a 48" class fish that one of his clients camped on for most of a day, he said they never saw that fish again for the rest of the season.
Sometimes they're just not going to eat, and there's nothing you can do to change that. At least they let you know where they live!
I guess for me I have experienced alot of fish that seem to be hot and alot that are little slower that follow and u turn at boatside or half way around the 8. I have spent most of my time doing a few throw back lures and then come back on them again later but I usually dont get any more action from that fish that day, so it makes me want to try camping on them from other stories I have heard from people and give it a try and see if it works for me!
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Location: Uxbridge Ontario | Best throw back lure for me these days regardless of the situation seems to be the original Mepps Muskie killer. I will chuck it back out and retrieve at a moderate pace but give it little pumps or to get it to dart around. Seems to peak most fished interest. Overcast days I stick with yellow/ gold... High sky days I go black/ nickle.
If I am chucking a suick, I usually stick with the suick, or run a bulldog with the same sweep as a suick but with a constant retrieve.
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Location: Germantown, WI | I've caught several muskies using a tube as a throw back bait. Back when Lindy was first beginning to market the Tiger Tube I remember hearing Spence Petros speak about using the tube as a throw back bait. I think it works best when you have at least two in the boat, but I'm sure you can do it solo too. A few casts with the tube in the general area is all I would do. I've used the Lindy Tiger Tube, Red October Monster Tube and Red October Ninja Tube. If that doesn't work I would move off and come back at a prime time: sunset, moon rise, major, minor, weather change, etc.
I also use the same techique when Bass fishing. Throwing a bass size tube back on a fish that blows up on a Zara Spook works a lot of the time.
Edited by MUSKYLUND1 9/27/2011 12:14 PM
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