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Location: Anchorage | With the slow but steady increase in the muskie popultions in Poygan and Butte Des Morts I raise this question: When, if ever, will the first photo of a 50" muskie from Lake Winnebago proper be posted on this website?
I say May 13, 2015. |
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Location: Janesville | I have seen pics of 50's out of there already. they are there just not in numbers yet. |
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Location: Anchorage | Well I guess that's that. |
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Location: Appleton,WI | The whole system does have a 50" on it and there are fish over 50 out there as matt stated just low density! |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Sure... the 50's in there now are remnant natives. Perhaps the question should be.... how long until the STOCKED fish reach the size limit of 50 inches? |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | I don't recall...what was the first year that Winnebago was stocked? I don't remember reading it in Kapuscinki's paper, but I'll go dig that up and check now.
PointerPride and I caught a tagged fish in Green Bay, in November of 2007, that was 50.125" long. It had been stocked about 11 years earlier, as I recall. He called the DNR on turned in the tag number, and they gave him the date it was stocked, and the size at stocking. But that seems to suggest that it may take comparably-size fish about 11-12 years to reach 50" in Winnebago, as they would probably have been from the same brood stock. The wild card of course is the forage base in those other lakes (Winnebago, Poygan, Buttes des Morts). I simply don't know that much about those lakes as I do the bay, so I cannot say if the forage is as rich there. But you certainly have the same genetics, that's for sure...
TB
EDIT: I just skimmed through that paper, but didn't see any mention of the year any of those lakes were first stocked.
Edited by tcbetka 4/25/2011 11:38 AM
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Location: NE Wisconsin | I believe there was a few years when adult spots were taken from the brood stock, Long Lake, and put into the Winnebago system. I do not know the numbers. |
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| Not including stocking of some tigers in the mid 70's, this is when they Bago system lakes were first stocked:
Butte des Morts - 2002
Poygan - 2002
Little Butte des morts - 1998, then not again until 2002
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| I beleive rubberhairy Eric told my friend about a 50" he got on Winnebego a few years ago already. Maybe a Wisconsin strain? They were always in there to some degree. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Well then, if these fish were of the same source as was being stocked in the bay itself, I should think it'd be another 2-3 years before you start seeing any appreciable numbers of 50" fish coming from those lakes. That is, if they stocked significant numbers of fish back in those years. But they should be dynamite fisheries though--it's not like there's not a good forage base and plenty of water in which to hide!
It's a very exciting time to be a musky angler in the eastern half of Wisconsin...
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| I heard there's 55's out there!
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| Winnebago - 137,708 acres
Poygan, Winneconnie, Butte des Mortes - 27,466 acres
165,174 acres of water which has been minimally stocked. Unfortunately as well it has yet to be shown the fish are reproducing here or if they experience the same issues the Green Bay fish do in not successfully reproducing. Winnebago could be a TREMENDOUS musky fishery if given the opportunity. David Rowe mentioned last fall at one of the meetings that Bago could eventually get some of the Georgian Bay broodstock fish but the primary focus was getting these fish to the Green Bay for genetic diversity. Could be years... Can local clubs raise money & purchase fish for stocking on a water like this or does everything have to go thru the DNR? |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | I don't know where that's at, to be honest. The last I was advised (2009/2010), the whole stocking program has been on hold, awaiting an acceptable VHSv disinfectant procedure. I don't know where that's at right now though, so I am not able to say when any of those waters (Green Bay, or any those lakes) will be stocked again. The thing to do would be to call the local biologist in Oshkosh and ask them, as they would be the ones to manage those waters...
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| "When, if ever, will the first photo of a 50" muskie from Lake Winnebago proper be posted on this website?"
Don't know if a picture exists, but a 51 pound 12 ounce musky was caught out of Lake Winnebago in 1948. There have always been big muskies in the Winnebago system. |
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| Fact is Lake Winnebago is off limits for musky stocking.
I do know that the walleye in this lake go up river to spawn in marshes do they want to protect this strain of walleye as much as possible? Never heard of another place in this country the walleye do this. Also don't know how the Lake Sturgeon come to play in this either.
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Location: musky waters of SE, WI | Lake Winnebago the new Mille Lacs. i can dream right? |
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| Musky Ken, LOTW walleye run up the rainy river all lakes experince an upriver run if there is a river leading into the lake. |
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| Winnebago certainly could be the next Mille Lacs! I heard of a 56 incher from there over 10 years ago! It is a native spotted muskie water. |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | http://www.educatedangler.com/news/fishing/general/618-big-musky-in...
Want to learn a little more about the Winnebago system musky fishery? Read the above article.. Great insight! |
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| Musky Ken- Why would Winnebago be "off limits" for stocking musky? Musky were once native there as they were in Green Bay and are being ‘reintorduced’ to Green Bay so why not Winnebago? |
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| What's the use in coming up with reasons they wouldn't - the are and have been. |
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| Musky Ken - 4/26/2011 10:10 PM
Fact is Lake Winnebago is off limits for musky stocking.
I do know that the walleye in this lake go up river to spawn in marshes do they want to protect this strain of walleye as much as possible? Never heard of another place in this country the walleye do this. Also don't know how the Lake Sturgeon come to play in this either.
Musky Ken
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Fact is none of your facts are correct. |
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| They just started stocking green day again in the fall. they raise 5000 muskies in Kewaunee trout ponds last year that was just for green bay, but think they plan on stocking the rest of the system in the next year or two. As far as muskies in Lake Winnebago, there is muskies in bago, I would like to see them choose better places to release them. Like in the bays on the west shores with good spawning habitat. As for muskies hurting the walleye populations. dont see it! Winnebago system is a shad base system. That is there natural forge not walleye. that is why it is difficult to catch them. When they are done spawning they do noting but follow shad around all day. easy fatty meal. Really believe that thats why the perching has been so good out there, because the shad has been so thick that the perch aren't facing predation. |
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Location: Wisconsin | http://infotrek.er.usgs.gov/apex/f?p=220:1:0::NO::P1_COUNTY_NAME:WI...
The data I think is up to 2009, but all the lakes in the area were stocked with Great Lakes. I would suspect those lakes would turn into Mille Lacs in a few years, pay attention to the walleyes and smallmouths and let the muskies get big. |
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Location: Green Bay, WI | Excellent job on that link. I hadn't seen that.
Thanks for posting it!
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| Musky stocking in Lake Winnebago is hold because any musky fingerlings to be stocked or introduced into Winnebago must undergo extensive VHS testing and found to be clear of VHS. This I was told by members of the C&R Musky Club.
So I guess Musky Ken was right about musky stocking in Lake Winnebago to some degree.
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