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stcroixallday
Posted 4/27/2011 3:31 PM (#495508)
Subject: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 31


hey guys i was just wonder what knots you guys use when tying your main line to your leader?

thanks!
hobeybaker
Posted 4/27/2011 5:19 PM (#495529 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 51


I use palomar knots.
Esox-Hunter
Posted 4/27/2011 6:03 PM (#495535 - in reply to #495529)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Posts: 774


Location: South East Wisconsin
"I use palomar knots." Same here.
CU301DSV
Posted 4/27/2011 6:35 PM (#495546 - in reply to #495508)
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Posts: 906


Location: Canada
Palomar
Esocidae
Posted 4/27/2011 7:15 PM (#495553 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: RE: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 181


Location: St.John, Indiana
palomar
Kirk
Posted 4/27/2011 7:39 PM (#495557 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: RE: main line to leader knots?


using a swivel palomar line to line uni knot
allegheny river kid
Posted 4/27/2011 7:55 PM (#495561 - in reply to #495508)
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Posts: 463


Location: Sw Pennsylvania
bucher power knot
jasonvkop
Posted 4/27/2011 8:17 PM (#495569 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Posts: 613


Location: Michigan
palomar
mskyhntr
Posted 4/27/2011 8:57 PM (#495581 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: RE: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 814


Line to Line...Double Uni-Knot
Line to Leader...Uni-Knot
Hasn't failed yet....doubt it ever will!
gregk9
Posted 4/27/2011 9:41 PM (#495588 - in reply to #495508)
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Posts: 791


Location: North Central IL USA
palomar
Performance_Tuned
Posted 4/27/2011 10:06 PM (#495594 - in reply to #495588)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 102


Location: Bowling Green, KY
Anybody ever try going straight to a piece of 130-150# mono or fluoro with an Albright knot, thereby doing away with a swivel or steel ring or any of that jazz? I've tried it at home, not only with mono, but sevenstrand. So far, when I pull until something breaks, it has been the main line every time, but I'm still not sure. I know it is commonly used for flyline to backing, when fishing for harder pulling critters than muskies.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/27/2011 10:26 PM (#495598 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





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Fishing Fool Knot with 5-7 wraps for me, 7 wraps for 65lb, 6 wraps for 80lb, and 5 wraps for 100lb test Braid.


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MuskyLureFreak
Posted 4/27/2011 11:07 PM (#495603 - in reply to #495508)
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the fish-n-fool knot is just the american name for uni knot--same knot
PIKEMASTER
Posted 4/28/2011 5:14 AM (#495614 - in reply to #495603)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
MuskyLureFreak - 4/27/2011 11:07 PM

the fish-n-fool knot is just the american name for uni knot--same knot


Almost, on the uni-knot U go though the eye only once, and Fish-N-Fool U go though the eye twice, which makes a big difference. The Fish-N-Fool knot won Knot Wars 2 years ago and beat the Palomar, but was beat last year by the Berkley Braid Knot, I don't like how the berkley knot has 2 tag ends sticking out of the knot.
The Fish-N-Fool knot is very easy to tie and it comes together very easy if your hands are cold and wet.
horsehunter
Posted 4/28/2011 5:35 AM (#495615 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Location: Eastern Ontario
Back in Dacron Days I used to splice has anyone tried the hollow Power Pro and will it splice? They say you can run a flourocarbon leader up the center and it locks chineese handcuff like.
I now use palomar (or the bucher power knot when my arthritic hands are working)
Pikopath
Posted 4/28/2011 7:58 AM (#495635 - in reply to #495594)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 501


Location: Norway

Performance_Tuned - 4/27/2011 10:06 PM Anybody ever try going straight to a piece of 130-150# mono or fluoro with an Albright knot, thereby doing away with a swivel or steel ring or any of that jazz? I've tried it at home, not only with mono, but sevenstrand. So far, when I pull until something breaks, it has been the main line every time, but I'm still not sure. I know it is commonly used for flyline to backing, when fishing for harder pulling critters than muskies.

Yes I have done that, and it works very well. Its also used by deepsea fishermen here for bigger fish than pike and musky. We also did a test with tying the uni knot straight on to a fluoroleader where we melted the end to a "mushroom" it held up to a 20lbs pike, while trolling, but Im not sure if this connection would be my main stay.

Michael

esoxfly
Posted 4/28/2011 9:22 AM (#495651 - in reply to #495508)
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Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
I use a Bimini Twist.
MuskieSwede
Posted 4/28/2011 9:34 AM (#495656 - in reply to #495651)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 245


According to a recent test made here in Sweden, the strongest knot for braid is the Berkley Braid Knot.

I tie my FC directly to braid using a normal overhand knot and a uni knot, since i dont use bucktails (only spinnerbaits) a swivel is no use.
In the lower left hand corner you can see how to tie the knot:
http://savage-gear.com/ecatalogue/Savagegear/flash.html#/36/
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WI Skis
Posted 4/28/2011 11:01 AM (#495674 - in reply to #495508)
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Posts: 547


Location: Oshkosh
Palomar, I have never had any problems, and easy to tie.

Peter
figure8out
Posted 4/28/2011 1:00 PM (#495707 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Posts: 152


Location: Nowhere near where I should be
power knot, everything on either side has failed at one point, but never the knot, for myself that is.
jackson
Posted 4/28/2011 1:06 PM (#495708 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




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Palomar or Trilene knot (which is the fish and fool knot). Neither have ever failed me. I usually tie the berkley trilene knot thou since it was easier when i used a single strand leader. I like having the 2 wraps around the swivel it provides.
MuskyLureFreak
Posted 4/28/2011 2:14 PM (#495719 - in reply to #495614)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 323


PIKEMASTER - 4/28/2011 5:14 AM

MuskyLureFreak - 4/27/2011 11:07 PM

the fish-n-fool knot is just the american name for uni knot--same knot


Almost,on the uni-knot U go though the eye only once.----- Not almost it is the same knot. The uni knot you go through the eye twice also. In every pack of power pro sense i started using it 8 years ago has the uni knot in there and it shows and tells you to go through the eye twice or even folding the line to double it up to make even a stronger knot. Google fish-n-fool knot page 1 right side is a picture of the fish-n-fool knot same page you got your pic from then google uni knot. page 1 middle top same picture same knot some as in power pro package. There is NO difference in the knot. Again it is the american slang name for the uni knot.
jdsplasher
Posted 4/29/2011 7:09 AM (#495855 - in reply to #495719)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Posts: 2269


Location: SE, WI.

Bucher power knot with braids!!!

Palomar with mono's!!!  

cjrich
Posted 4/29/2011 7:46 AM (#495864 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
Palomar. Never had one slip.
Will Schultz
Posted 4/29/2011 8:54 AM (#495881 - in reply to #495708)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

Experimented with the fishn fool last year and like it. 

jackson - 4/28/2011 2:06 PM Palomar or Trilene knot (which is the fish and fool knot). Neither have ever failed me. I usually tie the berkley trilene knot thou since it was easier when i used a single strand leader. I like having the 2 wraps around the swivel it provides.

Trilene and fishn fool are very different. http://www.animatedknots.com/trilene/index.php

 

 

FEVER
Posted 4/29/2011 12:57 PM (#495943 - in reply to #495508)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?





Posts: 253


Location: On the water
Palomar. Easy to tie. Never had one slip.
Don Pursch
Posted 4/29/2011 1:09 PM (#495946 - in reply to #495598)
Subject: Re: main line to leader knots?




Posts: 112


Location: Nielsen's Fly-In Lodge, on Rowan Lake
Two times through is the key
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