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Message Subject: Adjusting the cast control
suicks
Posted 8/2/2010 10:41 PM (#453069)
Subject: Adjusting the cast control


What is your guys preference on adjusting the cast control cap? Do you leave it loose or adjust it tighter?
Do you need to adjust it tight enough to get all side play out of the spool?
shaley
Posted 8/2/2010 10:59 PM (#453074 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: RE: Adjusting the cast control





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
I run all mine loose, I also don't run any brakes on any of my reels....
Tackle Industries
Posted 8/3/2010 8:09 AM (#453110 - in reply to #453074)
Subject: RE: Adjusting the cast control





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I have learned to keep the birds nests away. You need to adjust the cast brake for each lure you use depending on the weight. I put my lure on, then push the bail and let the lure fall on its own. I adjust the brake until the lure falls about 6" per second (or close). This significantly reduces your birds nests and also does not limit your casting length too much. Maybe 5%. I also use my thumb lightly on the spool as the lure is going out. Many times you can feel a birds nest starting with your thumb and just apply a littel pressure from your thumb and you can feel the line go back onto the spool. Also thumb the spool right before the lure hits the water. These suggestions are much more important when you use stiffer rods (XXH) since they do not load up as nice and "jolt" the lures off the rod vs a nice spring/even action.

Some pro guides will have much more input on the subject but I got the above from a guide a long time ago and it helped a lot.

JMO,
James
Muddy41
Posted 8/4/2010 4:30 AM (#453327 - in reply to #453110)
Subject: RE: Adjusting the cast control





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Location: Richfield, MN
Tackle Industries - 8/3/2010 8:09 AM

I have learned to keep the birds nests away. You need to adjust the cast brake for each lure you use depending on the weight. I put my lure on, then push the bail and let the lure fall on its own. I adjust the brake until the lure falls about 6" per second (or close). This significantly reduces your birds nests and also does not limit your casting length too much. Maybe 5%. I also use my thumb lightly on the spool as the lure is going out. Many times you can feel a birds nest starting with your thumb and just apply a littel pressure from your thumb and you can feel the line go back onto the spool. Also thumb the spool right before the lure hits the water. These suggestions are much more important when you use stiffer rods (XXH) since they do not load up as nice and "jolt" the lures off the rod vs a nice spring/even action.

Some pro guides will have much more input on the subject but I got the above from a guide a long time ago and it helped a lot.

JMO,
James


Having not yet fishied with musky lures which are heavier than the ones I use for my bass fishing I follow the same guide lines as quoted by James.

I throw alot of crankbaits of various size and werghts and by adjusting the reel with each lue used I have almost but not alll but have elminated the birds nest. Sure i get one once in a while but usually due to mental break down on my part.

If yo tinker with each lure before throwin it I am a true believer that you will help maintain your sanity,

Tackle Industries
Posted 8/4/2010 6:03 AM (#453331 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control





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Location: Land of the Musky
Or Shimano needs to build a CTE400DC reel. I bet that would cost about $800 I would love to have a DC reel for bass fishing, just can not afford a $600+ reel. Threw one once and you can not make that thing birds nest. Digital Control Brake System are a miracle plus 50,000RPM spool speed will really let your lure fly our there.
Tim Schmitz
Posted 8/4/2010 9:02 AM (#453352 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control




Posts: 540


Location: MN
James, shimano makes a Trinidad 16dc it sounds like a bomb falling when i cast and thorne bros has them for 599.99 best Muskie reel EVER!
Muddy41
Posted 8/4/2010 9:32 AM (#453356 - in reply to #453352)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control





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Location: Richfield, MN
Tim Schmitz - 8/4/2010 9:02 AM

James, shimano makes a Trinidad 16dc it sounds like a bomb falling when i cast and thorne bros has them for 599.99 best Muskie reel EVER!


For $600 I hope ir unhooks it own fish as well!!! Would love to have one. Could not justify $600 to the wife for 1 reel!!!!

Tim Schmitz
Posted 8/4/2010 9:50 AM (#453360 - in reply to #453356)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control




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Location: MN
Muddy41 - 8/4/2010 9:32 AM

Tim Schmitz - 8/4/2010 9:02 AM

James, shimano makes a Trinidad 16dc it sounds like a bomb falling when i cast and thorne bros has them for 599.99 best Muskie reel EVER!


For $600 I hope ir unhooks it own fish as well!!! Would love to have one. Could not justify $600 to the wife for 1 reel!!!!



X2 but I traded my Calcutta 400te for it so I really olny paid 400 but when you add the retail cost+custom thorne predator = 1100$. If I was married it wouldent last long LOL.
esox23
Posted 8/4/2010 11:46 AM (#453381 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control




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Location: Right behind you (tap, tap) BOOO
Leave my cast control open on all my reels. I am fortunate enough to not have to switch hands mid-cast and that allows me to keep my thumb on the spool the whole time. It also helps me be able to stop the lure in flight give it a little snap to help keep away tangles and dawg balls.
fish4musky1
Posted 8/4/2010 1:06 PM (#453400 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control





Location: Northern Wisconsin
When I leave my cast control loose on my revo toro the spool makes a clicking/knocking sound on the retrieve, this happen to anyone else? I feel like it is because there is side play in the spool when the control is loose and this causes the spool to shake and rattle as I retrieve.
Killerbug
Posted 8/5/2010 1:13 PM (#453585 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: RE: Adjusting the cast control





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Location: Denmark
suicks - 8/2/2010 10:41 PM

What is your guys preference on adjusting the cast control cap? Do you leave it loose or adjust it tighter?
Do you need to adjust it tight enough to get all side play out of the spool?


I usually do like this with all baits regardless their weight, tighten the brake just enough to remove the play of the spool, the rest is up to my thumb.

Regarding the centrefugal brake: If I am using an older reel with "only" two brakepads, I use the thumb in the beginning of the cast as well(mostly necessary when using braids)





Edited by Killerbug 8/5/2010 1:15 PM
Guest
Posted 8/5/2010 3:10 PM (#453602 - in reply to #453381)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control


esox23 - 8/4/2010 11:46 AM

Leave my cast control open on all my reels. I am fortunate enough to not have to switch hands mid-cast and that allows me to keep my thumb on the spool the whole time. It also helps me be able to stop the lure in flight give it a little snap to help keep away tangles and dawg balls.
Who switches hands mid cast?
esox23
Posted 8/5/2010 3:20 PM (#453604 - in reply to #453602)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control




Posts: 267


Location: Right behind you (tap, tap) BOOO
Guest - 8/5/2010 3:10 PM

esox23 - 8/4/2010 11:46 AM

Leave my cast control open on all my reels. I am fortunate enough to not have to switch hands mid-cast and that allows me to keep my thumb on the spool the whole time. It also helps me be able to stop the lure in flight give it a little snap to help keep away tangles and dawg balls.
Who switches hands mid cast?


Figure it this way you reel with your right hand and hold the rod/reel with your left hand. Now when you go to cast you have to hold the reel with your right hand to use your thumb on the spool and control the cast. Cast is done now you have to switch up to start the retrieve. make sense?


Edited by esox23 8/5/2010 3:37 PM
shaley
Posted 8/5/2010 9:10 PM (#453648 - in reply to #453604)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
I'll switch mid cast depending on bait being thrown.
curleytail
Posted 8/5/2010 10:20 PM (#453654 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: Re: Adjusting the cast control




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Location: Hayward, WI
I don't think about doing it too much anymore, but I am pretty sure I switch hands mid cast on every bait I use, unless I can see that I am going to get a dawg ball and have to do some 'extreme thumbing' to untangle the bait in mid air. I think most guys used to casting equipment switch hands mid cast?

curleytail
northern
Posted 8/6/2010 3:48 AM (#453661 - in reply to #453069)
Subject: RE: Adjusting the cast control


Just leave you,re tumb hoovering just above the spool. When it grows let it slip for a very brief moment to adjust the rotating spool. Sounds difficult but is realy basic for casting reels.
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