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| "I am being clear. If the rest of the economy wasn't down so badly, the increasing tourism dollars collected in MN from us out of stater Muskie Anglers would be recognized as having much more impact. It's not the fault of Muskie anglers visiting MN and spending discretionary dollars the overall budget is suffering, which is why the state DNR budget is suffering; it would suffer more if those anglers chose to fish elsewhere. it sounds like you want to blame it on out of state anglers...which is ridiculous."
Like Mr. Craven mentioned, the increase in non-resident Musky pressure has for the most part, diverted the local musky fisherman to other, less competitive choices. I hear the extra drive is worth the efforts along with the tranquility associated with less pressured environments. Yet the floaters are continuing more and more each season as reported by those non-musky fishing locals who still remain. I view it as cause and effect, blame does nobody any good.
"As to our resort owner friend, I asked him to back up his statements, and get more meaningless rhetoric like this
I haven't talked about delayed mortality in an expansive manner, just Minnesota where the balance of fishing pressure upon muskys prior to the current wave of angling interests demonstrated furtherance in the viable musky population.
I sure as hell didn't cause his observed 'floater'...maybe it was one of the 96% of his guests who are NOT dedicated muskie anglers. I've heard this sort of misdirected tirade that is not much more than a condemnation of fisheries management for years from resort owners even in WI, so it's no surprise."
And, I've replied with surveying the results from creel surveys over the last several years and correlate to the reduction of stocking activities and the increase in out of state musky fishing pressures and the transitioning of the local element to other, hopefully to remain unknown, musky waters requiring a more distance travel effort. Sorry, I just do not see the rhetorical response as do you. Perhaps it's time to reduce the anxiety level and focus upon the readings and interpreations to their communicated meanings.
"We 'tourists' get it, Dan said it clearly. "
Which, if you retrace my previous responses, backs up the overflow to my area and the slowly, but surely rise in non-resident musky angler traffic. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Would you mind sharing what resort you own/work at? I would like to do my part to ensure that you are never burdened again by the evil out of state tourist, and I can surely point my friends in other directions as well to further help you out |
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| If you were serious about all these issues you complain about you would realize that they stand a much better chance of being fixed by using your in-state angler vote and voice, and combine that with the power of your 200 resort association membership to address solutions. Which doesn't include throwing other peoples' good money at bad problems to hope that they are overcome, cause unless you actually fix the problems they'll never go away, but the money certainly will.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | guest,
I wasn't addressing you in the first paragraph. Nonsense responses to what I had to say to JS don't help clear up anything.
'And, I've replied with surveying the results from creel surveys over the last several years and correlate to the reduction of stocking activities and the increase in out of state musky fishing pressures and the transitioning of the local element to other, hopefully to remain unknown, musky waters requiring a more distance travel effort. Sorry, I just do not see the rhetorical response as do you. Perhaps it's time to reduce the anxiety level and focus upon the readings and interpreations to their communicated meanings. '
What?
Post a reference on the MNDNR website to the reduced stocking numbers and the lakes involved, and let me know what office I can get the creel study results from. let's hear the exact number of reported floaters, and when those fish appeared.
'The last several years'... are the numbers of YOY/stocked fish and fish to 35" way down from previous years? Any boom shocking surveys and fyke netting surveys to back that up? Just curious. |
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the discussions of musky fishermen ... and the feeling you get when you go fishing |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | sled, ain't it the truth. |
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