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Perfect Drift

Posted 7/8/2010 11:09 AM (#449007 - in reply to #448975)
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Posts: 155

My dad always says "If you buy junk you get junk"

MAtt

Posted 7/8/2010 2:44 PM (#449047 - in reply to #448437)
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Any gamigatsu hook I've ever tried to bend with pliers just snapped. I tried using them for quickstrike rigs with one bent prong for sticking in the sucker. Those are very brittle hooks

Cheech

Posted 7/8/2010 4:39 PM (#449067 - in reply to #449006)
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Location: Suburban Chicago

The poorly anchored hooks on these things ripped out of the two piece molded bodies on my Canada trip. One of them got a straightened middle hook too.

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Cowboyhannah

Posted 7/8/2010 5:04 PM (#449075 - in reply to #448437)
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI

I dunno' but when a 'decent' fish is in the low 50' I better start fishing different water. Can't wait until week I of August.

Tackle Industries

Posted 7/8/2010 5:56 PM (#449089 - in reply to #448437)
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Location: Land of the Musky

IMO any plastic lure should be through wire. Cost about $0.05 more to make them with a through wire so even if there is a failure in the plastic you still get the fish boated and released. Cheech, if you have not already...I suggest you send that picture to Bucher so they can see it and maybe fix the issue on future production runs. I owe my SuperD generation III lures to my customers. I had little to do with the positive changes besides listen and act.
JMO
James

HomeTime

Posted 7/9/2010 7:17 AM (#449156 - in reply to #449006)
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Location: Uxbridge Ontario

jonnysled - 7/8/2010 12:09 AM

Gamakatsu is a "foreign" product ...

the U.S. is best cliche is a great one to pound out time and time again, but it is simply not true.

truthful and good advice out of Tackle Industries ... spot-on

Tackle Industries uses awesome stuff... I can attest to their products. Great Service too... and I do not have to swap out this stuff for stiff I typically run.

Thanks James.

HomeTime

Posted 7/9/2010 7:24 AM (#449157 - in reply to #449047)
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Location: Uxbridge Ontario

MAtt - 7/8/2010 3:44 AM

Any gamigatsu hook I've ever tried to bend with pliers just snapped. I tried using them for quickstrike rigs with one bent prong for sticking in the sucker. Those are very brittle hooks

I cant say I have had any issues with Gamakatsu stuff. Wonder if they have made a change to what they produce. I bought a few hundred hooks from them a few years ago and still using the lots I bought. You really have to try hard to cut the ones I have with a pair a mini bolt cutters. and haven't had any more than a few snap or bend out... and on hooks with lots of fish.

Only time I have managed to bend their stuff is trolling big Jakes bumping rock and nailing a hookset into a boulder with a lockdown drag.

Tackle Industries

Posted 7/9/2010 7:49 AM (#449159 - in reply to #449157)
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Posts: 4053

Location: Land of the Musky

While I have never bought Gamakatsu brand hooks I have poured over Bass forums and I can not remember one time any bass guy has ever said Gamakatsu brand hooks have broke on them. I know a lot of the top brand bass lures ($100+ retail) use Gamakatsu hooks too. Some hooks are not made to bend/twist to "T" but are very strong. JMO
James

PIKEMASTER

Posted 7/9/2010 7:49 AM (#449160 - in reply to #449157)
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160

Only time I have managed to bend their stuff is trolling big Jakes bumping rock and nailing a hookset into a boulder with a lockdown drag.

Lockdown Drag for Trolling ???????

Cheech

Posted 7/9/2010 8:33 AM (#449172 - in reply to #449089)
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Location: Suburban Chicago

Tackle Industries - 7/8/2010 5:56 PM
...I suggest you send that picture to Bucher so they can see it and maybe fix the issue on future production runs.

Thanks James, I did send the pics and a note to Bucher. Those lures should have a thru-wire for sure. We were in big northerns not muskies when both broke. One fish we netted because it was on the middle hook, the other never made it in. Who knows what that one could have been.

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