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jackson

Posted 5/6/2010 8:40 AM (#439408 - in reply to #439129)
Subject: Re: Fuel Prices

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True, but more oil does affect the market. Right now, everytime someone in the middle east sneezes, speculators run up the price. The political unrest makes this country a hostage for energy.

And tell me how we make our tow vehicles more efficient? Me thinks, if it were possible someone would be doing it already. If a mfg came out with a truck that can pull my boat, and get 30mpg i would buy it tomorrow. The more emmisions junk you put on cars, the less power/efficiency you get. Why do you think the big V8's 20 years ago seemed to get better mileage?

also, please keep in mind that if the USA had our own oil supply we would be safer in the event of a middle east war which is probably inevitiable. Not to mention the jobs it could create if we had this industry.

Edited by jackson 5/6/2010 8:55 AM

MACK

Posted 5/6/2010 8:56 AM (#439410 - in reply to #439129)
Subject: Re: Fuel Prices

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There are a LOT of ideas, even patents out there, in existence today, to make all vehicles, not just cars, talking trucks too, be a LOT more fuel efficient and get a lot better gas mileage. Why don't they utilize those ideas and patents?

Politics.

The oil companies and the auto manufactures are in bed together. They keep each other in biz. They need each other. If the auto manufactures started to bring all of the good ideas out of the books to make the cars and trucks more fuel efficient and get great gas mileage...the oil company's wouldn't be too happy about that since there wouldn't be as much of a demand for their product.

Know anyone that works for any large auto manufactures, or engine development ,in the R&D department? Ask 'em....

Lots of smart, smart people out there with insanely great ideas. But...that's all that happens with most of those smart ideas, they go into the books, the archives, patented...but...can't be utilized, never to see the light of day.

Scary to think. Isn't it.

I live in Indiana, somewhat close to Cummins in Columbus, IN. I have a few good friends that work there at Cummins. They know of several engineers that could have those big heavy duty trucks that consumers buy to be tow vehicles putting down double, if not close to triple the gas mileage that they currently do. But. Can't do that.

There's so many great ideas out there to have cars, trucks, boat motors be a heckuva lot more efficient than they currently are. But...what's available and whats allowed to see the light of day are two completely different things.

Frustrating. Isn't it.

Politics. It's an ugly thing.

Guest

Posted 5/6/2010 8:57 AM (#439411 - in reply to #439129)
Subject: RE: Fuel Prices

I had a 350 V8 20 some years ago that got about 12 MPG.

My current V8 with more horsepower gets 18-19 HWY.

The reason we don't have more efficient trucks is because nobody cared until now, not because they can't make one.

I think it's hilarious when people say "we aren't going to use less, we need more".

Remember that in 20 years.

There is no possible way for our world to produce enough to keep up with increasing demand.

It's either change our energy sources now or wait for an impending disaster to force us to when it's to late.

JS

jackson

Posted 5/6/2010 10:46 AM (#439429 - in reply to #439129)
Subject: Re: Fuel Prices

Posts: 582

maybe there is a way to make a truck more fuel efficient. But what is the ROI? Can it be done at an exceptable price point or is it going to just tip the scales to another area in which many of you will cry "company X is raping us on prices" just like you say with the oil companies. Keep in mind, upwards of $.50 a gallon goes for taxes in most midwest states.

Our economy runs on energy, when there is not enough, we all suffer.

Tackle Industries

Posted 5/6/2010 12:26 PM (#439441 - in reply to #439129)
Subject: Re: Fuel Prices

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