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Message Subject: The Talonz Titan
Kingfisher
Posted 3/10/2010 6:51 PM (#428182)
Subject: The Talonz Titan




Posts: 1106


Location: Muskegon Michigan
Hi Guys, Well we finally got one of the new Titans done. This is the lure we have been working on for the last three years. Johnny Dadson has been pounding one for two years now with zero failures or damages to the lure. I wanted to build a deep diver that would be able to pound rocks year after year without breaking the body or peaning the lip over, breaking the lips etc. As many of you know the Canadian Shield has been the death of thousands of deep diving crankbaits via rock bashing. Lures like the Wishmaster , Parrywinkle and Lunge Locker built some baits that would last and each solved the problems associated with pounding rocks in different ways. I think in this lure we have built the most indestructable diver yet. Only time will tell but so far this lure has proven to have a tougher lip then the Wishmaster(Titanium vs Aluminum) while costiung 75 dollars less to build. The top coats are Envirotec and torch applied 8 coats. It has proven to be stronger than the stainless steel lips because to keep weight down stainless steel has to be thinner making the lips prone to bending. Titanium bridges the gap between Aluminum and Steel. To make this work in a Cedar lure we have had to Ply in hardwood into the nose of the blank prior to cutting the blanks out. This has proven to be the best way to keep the lure from splitting as many other production baits have been prone to. (Blowing the lids off them) or blowing the tops off the lures behind the diving bills. Our bait can not split behind the lip. Even if the lip breaks free from the epoxy it can not move since it is pinned with two stainless steel 1/8th pins which are pressed into the hardwood core of the lure.

All of these modifications have made this 12 inch Deepthreat heavier but she still floats with an inch of the tail sticking out of the water. She runs a little faster than the lexan lipped Deepthreats reaching speeds of 6 plus mph without weight ahead of it. Action is nice and the thump is as Johnny said Impressive. I asked Johnny if we should build this lure for sale and his words were BUILD MAN BUILD!!!! . It has taken almost a year to find the time to build one and now I have 9 more lips ready to go. This one is numbered #2 as Johnny's bait is #1 . I hope you guys can appreciate the work that went into designing and building this rock crusher. I feel it is my finest creation, I consider it the Humvee of lures Built to last ,built to pound and ready to put huge fish in someones boat. Enjoy Mike


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Kingfisher
Posted 3/10/2010 6:56 PM (#428186 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan




Posts: 1106


Location: Muskegon Michigan
Just wanted to add the Lips are 4000 series space shuttle grade Titanium cut on a water jet C.A.D. machine. The same guy cuts my lexan lips for the 12 inch Deepthreat. The lips alone cost 32 dollars each. Mike

Edited by Kingfisher 3/10/2010 6:59 PM
MuskyFix
Posted 3/10/2010 7:44 PM (#428204 - in reply to #428186)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan





Looks really nice mike.

SebSkie
Posted 3/11/2010 10:20 AM (#428284 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: Re: The Talonz Titan





Posts: 99


Location: North Coventry, PA
Wow...very nice. That looks like a tank! Great work
Perfect Drift
Posted 3/13/2010 6:02 PM (#428715 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan




Posts: 155


nice,nice,nice as always!
muletrain
Posted 3/14/2010 2:12 PM (#428854 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan




Posts: 173


Location: Probably Minnesota that time...
Perhaps in the future, you will consider building some shallow to mid depth, rock bludgeoning cranks built like this for us guys who prefer casting. That would be well recieved as well. Nice work indeed, for all the baitbuilders out there, keep breaking the barriers. Good fishing to you this season,
-Chris
Kingfisher
Posted 3/17/2010 10:44 PM (#429586 - in reply to #428854)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan




Posts: 1106


Location: Muskegon Michigan
Interesting idea here. But where do I start. Give some Ideas on what to fix. Do casters break lips off? is it the finishes? noses? What type of lures are you breaking now and what would make them stronger? We don't have much rock here in lower Michigan where Michelle and I cast. To use Titanium on a casting lure it would have to be a pretty heavy bait with lots of counterweight or it will stand on its nose like the Titan does. The big deep divers need to hit the rocks with a serious down angle so they bounce over instead of driving into the bottom. I could try a heavy jerk type crank bait in the 8 to 10 inch range. Try and make it suspending. This will be an even tougher challenge then an indestructable deep diver. Give some Ideas of what would be new and cool to build indestructable. Kingfisher
CiscoKid
Posted 4/2/2010 9:00 AM (#432594 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Mike, did you ever sell the Titan?

I have been busting heads off of Hooker cranks (both the Jr. and 10” size) while casting. It hasn’t been from hitting anything, but rather too much force while jerking the bait is busting the head off straight up from where the lip cut ends. No fault of Hooker tackle just the fait of a caster that can’t straight retrieve a crank.

If you are looking for something new a Jake style (like your dragon claw) bait in the 10” and 12” range that has a slow rise (not suspending) would be sweet! I have busted lips off of Jakes and Grandmas casting shallow rock bars especially when the water temps get cold in the fall. A version that may run down to 5’, and another 10’+ while casting would also be prime.
tuffy1
Posted 4/2/2010 9:22 AM (#432601 - in reply to #432594)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan





Posts: 3240


Location: Racine, Wi
+1 to Travis' request.
Steve Jonesi
Posted 4/2/2010 9:30 AM (#432605 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: Re: The Talonz Titan




Posts: 2089


+2 !
Will Schultz
Posted 4/2/2010 9:56 AM (#432611 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: Re: The Talonz Titan





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
I'll bet the new Mag Claw w/ a stainless or Ti lip and a lead added between the middle and rear hook hangars would would be about perfect.
CiscoKid
Posted 4/2/2010 10:03 AM (#432612 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Will, is the Mag 10”? I have a Claw, but Mike is holding out on me apparently on the Mag!

Personally I would rather see a stainless, or Aluminum lip over Titanium. I think there is no need for the Ti, and it would just add un-needed cost to the bait. If the Al or Stn Stl lip starts to mushroom over you just grab a file and remove the burr.
Will Schultz
Posted 4/2/2010 10:12 AM (#432617 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: Re: The Talonz Titan





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Yes, 10". You've seen it...
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=53...
CiscoKid
Posted 4/2/2010 10:16 AM (#432619 - in reply to #428182)
Subject: RE: The Talonz Titan





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Thanks for reminding me! I need to talk with Mike!
tuffy1
Posted 4/2/2010 10:24 AM (#432622 - in reply to #432617)
Subject: Re: The Talonz Titan





Posts: 3240


Location: Racine, Wi
So is the hardwood version out and ready to test yet? Looks tasty for sure!
Will Schultz
Posted 4/2/2010 11:53 AM (#432639 - in reply to #432622)
Subject: Re: The Talonz Titan





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

tuffy1 - 4/2/2010 11:24 AM So is the hardwood version out and ready to test yet? Looks tasty for sure!

 I'm looking forward to testing it but I haven't got my hands on one yet. Mike was pretty busy all fall/winter so I'm not sure if he's got them cut.

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