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Location: Antioch, IL | Slamr - 3/24/2010 9:01 AM
I think many of you are missing the sarcasm in a lot of the posts here....
If it were not for all of the sarcasm around here I would have left a long time ago. Being a true smarta$$ is an art form and there are some real Da Vinci's on here.
salmr, Hopeful, Benr, sled, sworrell, ToddM, and the list goes on.....(even Pointer for the low brow stuff, although most of his stuff rightfully takes the fast train to the recycle bin)
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Location: St. Lawrence River | PMV - 3/23/2010 10:36 PM
Take this scenario- two average musky fisherman with equal skills and experience, both get out fishing 10 times in one season. One does everything on his own, lake choice,spots,baits,boat,etc and puts 3 in the boat out of ten times. The other hires a guide for all 10 trips and scores 6 fish. Both meet at a bar after the last outing, and the guided one says "hey, I put 6 fish in the boat on ten outings this year" the other is sitting there with his three. Is there a difference? I think so. A lot less effort on one.
In all reality, who cares, everybody is out there with their own idea of what expectations they have and how they measure success. If you hire a guide, you are paying for that time on the water experience, pattern that is working, fish location, etc, more power to you, enjoy it. I don't think it is a apple to apple comparison though.
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| I see your point Johnnie. More lines more problems??? I can barely manage the one but I don't troll for the lunge I seek. I see the problem, however this day and age it's not uncommon. Guides are for learning how to fish for muskies I thought? I'm out of the loop in the lunge world these days. I've seen guys with 1 line do worse though. Just jig em! |
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| If you fish for everyone elses opinions,
you are losing what these fish will mean to you upon capture.
go fish, catch fish, take pics, and if you want the criticism of others,
post your pics on here, along with the LxG. hehe
if you feel that those fish caught with a guide dont mean as much to you,
hopefully the info you learned that day is,
and you'll use that on your own time someday. why not? you paid for it right?
this sport is about learning, making yourself a better fisherman,
continuing to better your PB, or numbers of fish per year.
and plain out right having fun, enjoying time on the water, time with friends,
and whiping sweet slime on your pantleg with a smile.
there are a lot of ups n downs in it, take the good with the bad,
but dont ever put yourself or the fish down because you did what you did to catch one. If the goal is to put fish in the boat, then do just that,
every legal method possible that is
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| Slamr - 3/24/2010 9:01 AM
I think many of you are missing the sarcasm in a lot of the posts here....
only the ones who count fish... |
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| I think a lot of it has to do with the person and the reason they hire the guide. There is nothing wrong with going with a guide on new waters to help shorten a learning curve. You go out, see what baits work and the general type of structure fish are using etc. Now the guys that spend $700 on a rod/reel setup, can quote every word of Musky Hunter, but couldn't actually do it are a different story. Some of these guys fish maybe three of four times a year with a guide, catch a fish and they think they are gods, that's a little different. Some of these act like they did it all on their own, when in reality, they wouldn't know where to start. Armchair types you could say. |
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Location: Hopefully on the water | Triton1, very well said. Everyone hire a guide for different reason. Also reading what you have read and actually implementing it are too different things. Having a $700 setup doesn't make you a better fisherman. Maybe gives you a little better edge on equipement but if you don't know how to use it it does you no good. I have been out with guides 9 times in my life. I have only caught fish with guide 2 of those times. But every time that I have been out I have learned something from each guide each time I have been out. So just by hiring a guide doesn't garuantee you a fish but something that you may have picked up from them can give you a lifetime of knowledge. Each is to their own for why they hire or don't hire a guide let it be. Plus success and personal best is measured only in the eye of the beholder. |
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