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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | I had a great time in a tourney on Cass Lake this past weekend, and this was a winning tactic. I didn't get enough of a chance to talk to the guys who did it to learn enough about it. Anybody out there done much of this and what is the best way to do it? Speeds? Fishing them almost near bottom, somewhere further up in the column? Seemed that they weren't fishing real deep doing this, 10-15 ft? Also sounded like they were keeping the rods in holders, but I would think that holding and pumping wouldn't hurt either? Anyone know? It sounds very interesting and would love to try it this weekend, but looking for a few ideas to be successful with it. |
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| Good topic! I would be interested to learn more about this technique also.
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | I troll them often. Mags and Pounders have worked best with HeliDawgs close behind. I keep my speeds under 2.5mph and also attach a 1-2oz bell sinker to the front hook eye to keep the bait from rolling at all. Its takes some line out to get them very deep if you get going too fast. If I have to get over 10-15ft down at any kind of speed I hook them up on a downrigger. As the year goes on I keep slowing down until I'm actually using my electric to move along. One of the Beauties of 'Dawgs is that you can slow right down and still get a good action out of them unlike most other baits when trolled. I leave mine in the rod holder and just pull on the line once in awhile to give it a jerk.
Good Fishin'
Tim
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| A size 0 dipsy diver will run them at that depth with 30-35 feet of line out if you run it on the zero setting for side to side. If you want it to run out to the left or right turn the dial to #2 and add about 8 feet of line out. It works great!!! |
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| nice info... keep it coming..
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Location: NEW | I know that some guys row troll them with success. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | Might have to give it a try this fall. I just thought you wouldn't get good hook sets with a rubber bait in the rod holder versus hard plastic lures. |
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| Roughneck1860 - 10/14/2009 5:09 AM
I troll them often. Mags and Pounders have worked best with HeliDawgs close behind. I keep my speeds under 2.5mph and also attach a 1-2oz bell sinker to the front hook eye to keep the bait from rolling at all.
That's what I was wondering. I was picturing the Dawg rotating in 360's with out some kind of weight added. What about the Dawgs that are "tweaked" to dart up & down & to one side or the other, on hard rips, would you want to bend them back (tune) to there original shape (out of package), before trolling with them ? Thanks for anymore info.
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | Chas - 10/14/2009 9:50 PM
. What about the Dawgs that are "tweaked" to dart up & down & to one side or the other, on hard rips, would you want to bend them back (tune) to there original shape (out of package), before trolling with them ? Thanks for anymore info.
Chas
I have a half a dozen Mags in my favorite colours that I've tweaked for trolling. Normally they have a bit of a "tail down" bend to the body but nothing sideways. I just leave them like that an don't cast with them often.
Good Fishin'
Tim
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | Yeah, thanks guys. Very helpful so far. Lots to chew on and think about, both the tactic and the spots to try it on this weekend. With that said, what kinds of spots are you guys doing this in? Are you only doing it with baitfish right there, just spots outside weededges, edge of real sharp breaks, straight up open water? I guess I am thinking outside known weededges as well as sharp breaks, with both in the same area being the best? Any more suggestions or comments on spots?
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | I'll troll them anywhere I'd troll any other bait, just as a different presentation. I also find they work well trolled over of the tops of weeds close to surface where anything but a spinner would be tough to pull.
Tim
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Location: syracuse indiana | this is actually how the indiana state record was caught.. trolling a dawg.. 43lbs 8 oz....bill |
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | Gearing up to do it tomorrow. Sharpening some new hooks, checking the gear and going tomorrow for a long day. Hopefully it will be great and the catching will be better. My brother tried trolling rubber (a Suzy Sucker) early evening Thursday and boated a 45 only 15 minutes into doing it. All the tips will help thanks a lot guys, tomorrow I'm hoping it all pays off with some Bemidji area pigs. |
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| Good luck to you. Wish I was on Cass right now, but I'll have to wait to next August (VERY SAD)! I could just see a pig engulfing your bulldawg off one of the breaks on Buck Bar, (or Little Wishbone for that matter.)LOL!
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Location: Bemidji, Lake Vermilion | So, the wild and crazy bulldawg trolling experiment mid-Oct 2009 is in the bag. So was this 43in ski. Pulling a Pounder, found the right bait on the right break and bang, it worked. Tried a whole bunch of other areas, no bait. One main lake point had it and it was pretty thick. My friends wife boated about a 35in pike, we tried it a little while before moving, never found better bait, went back later, got the ski in the same place as the Nort. Did have one other decent rip I guess, felt it on the same Pounder, didn't find hooks. Whole head area was all ripped up from the one I didn't get, the one that was boated hit the head also. Nort this morning totally ate the bait. So a decent day overall for trying something new.
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| rock bottom,
what speed are you running the dawgs with the dipsy at to get that depth
thanks
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| Congrats on a nice fish! It looks nice & warm out.LOL
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| just curious about the dipsey diver with the dawg........
do you use a snubber on the dipsey of just go straight to your line with it?
also are you using it on both the mag dawg & reg dawg?
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| Anybody ever use them behind a planer board or are the too heavy?
I am sure a pounder probaly would be too much but how about a mag or regular bulldawg? |
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | My son was trolling Mags today off the boards without any problem. Despite their weight they don't pull that hard at all. Plus they work......he boated a 42" and 45" on them
Tim
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| You can also rig them upside down. The leader in the forward hook eye, and a treble in the original leader eye. The flat belly, helps the lure to dig deeper, if that is what you want? |
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| Some people are also having success trolling Bulldawgs using a leader that has double Colorado blades on it. A clear plastic spacer keeps the blades from touching the bait. Seems like more fish are caught on the front treble when using the blades.
http://www.bigwoodmuskylures.com/lures.php?cat=leaders
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Location: Minn. | I've trolled Bulldogs, Super D's, Suzy's, with MM leaders and have had good success.
http://www.bigwoodmuskylures.com/lures.php?cat=leaders
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