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Message Subject: Jerk Bait Rods
Kwestlund
Posted 9/15/2009 1:46 PM (#399877)
Subject: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 113


Location: Northwest Wisconsin
New to the sport and currently both my rods are 10' I mainly bought got cause of the price. Finding out that although they work great while trolling/casting from one end of the lake to the other , I have a hard time working jerk-baits with them. Hoping to get some advice on the length / power/action of rod I should take a look at. Thinking I should get a Med Heavy or Heavy rod just not sure if it makes a difference when it come to throwing other baits. Also do you lose anything by going with a 2pc rod over a one piece.


peace
k
muskiewhored
Posted 9/15/2009 1:58 PM (#399879 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Location: Oswego, IL
IMO, I would get a rod that doesnt slap the water when you jerk the rod, not enough movement = not enough action. Again this is only my opinion.
Esox-Hunter
Posted 9/15/2009 2:08 PM (#399881 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 774


Location: South East Wisconsin
For Jerk bait rods I have a 6'9"H and 7'6"H. Although rods are tools use what you are comfortable with. For me im short so the shorter rods work for me. Then again if im fishing out of a higher boat i will go to the 76H. Imo i would stay away from the two piece rods.

S.Killips

Edited by Esox-Hunter 9/15/2009 2:09 PM
Kwestlund
Posted 9/15/2009 2:17 PM (#399887 - in reply to #399881)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 113


Location: Northwest Wisconsin
That was going to be my next question .. height to rod length haha. Thanks for the quick responses. Right now I think I'll go with something along the lines of 7'6H. Most the time I'm fishing in from the bow of the boat so hopefully the rod tip will stay out of the water. If it does I guess you can never have enough rods right.


again thanks
k
Kwestlund
Posted 9/15/2009 2:19 PM (#399888 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 113


Location: Northwest Wisconsin
Oh ya , why do you say stay away from 2pc rods , does it effect the action of the rod , easier to break??
Flambeauski
Posted 9/15/2009 2:20 PM (#399889 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
I prefer 7 to 7'6" in a heavy to extra heavy. Two piece rods are going to be heavier in overall rod weight than their one piece counterparts. The ferrules are weak points so rod manufacturers beef them up with extra material. Most 2 pieces are going to be 10 to 20% heavier than the same model in a 1 piece. Also with the extra weight at the ferrules you won't have a continuous taper which affects the rod's casting and sensitivity.
Muskie Treats
Posted 9/15/2009 2:24 PM (#399891 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 2384


Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Stay away from a 2 piece in a jerkbait rod. The connection point is the weak point of the rod. I don't know of anyone who even makes a 2 piece jerk rod anyway.

I like the St.Croix 7'6" H for most jerks. I use a 6'2" for small gliders as it's easier to work them with the short rod. You CAN use a longer rod, but you can work the baits better with a shorter one.
jackson
Posted 9/15/2009 2:40 PM (#399896 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods




Posts: 582


7'6" seems to be the sweet spot for me. i prefer heavy fast action. i fish out of a true bass boat as well so i am right on the water and they seem to be just fine. I do have a 6'6" that works as well, but i prefer at little more flex in the tip than a 6'6" can provide.
Kwestlund
Posted 9/15/2009 3:06 PM (#399905 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 113


Location: Northwest Wisconsin
So anyone have experience with the Pete Maina combo's? Would love to head to park falls and pick up a St. Croix but right now money wise thats not an option.
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 9/15/2009 3:19 PM (#399911 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 1317


Location: Lebanon,Mo
Just get the new Okuma XXH 8'6" Telescopic for your jerkbaits,rubber,or cowgirls.I have two of these and they work great for working those jerkbaits,even topwater.They also have a great price and warranty.
Flambeauski
Posted 9/15/2009 3:22 PM (#399912 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
the reels are pretty decent but the rods are about as good as you can expect for the price. Bass Pro has St. Croix too. I'd go with the PM76HF, try to get your hands on both to do a side by side if you can.
John at Ross's
Posted 9/15/2009 3:35 PM (#399917 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 285


Location: Price County WI
I use a 7' heavy action Tooth Tamer.
Kwestlund
Posted 9/15/2009 10:48 PM (#400058 - in reply to #399911)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 113


Location: Northwest Wisconsin
After doing a search here on okuma I'm really impressed them and the customer support.

Edited by Kwestlund 9/15/2009 10:51 PM
MikeHulbert
Posted 9/16/2009 7:34 AM (#400077 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 2427


Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
For all Jerkbaits, I use the Musky Armor 9 footer. Long rods help keep those "slashers" that just get the back hook pinned and in the net. Easier to cast, easier to retrieve and like I said, helps keep those "barely hooked" fish pinned.
Nellie
Posted 9/16/2009 8:14 AM (#400084 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods


So anyone have experience with the Pete Maina combo's? Would love to head to park falls and pick up a St. Croix but right now money wise thats not an option.

Yup. it is a great rod for the price, great warranty, great rod for suicks, bobbies and other dive and rise jerk bait.
Works for gliders too.
You can use it for live bait too without a problem
I am not a fan of a 9' for jerk baits, especially dive & rise style.
BubbaTn
Posted 9/16/2009 8:19 AM (#400085 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 134


Location: East TN
What about a St. Croix Triumph? Last I looked at the Maina's they had bumped the price of those up anyway to like $129.99? You can get a Triumph for like $109-119.
Guest
Posted 9/16/2009 9:16 AM (#400091 - in reply to #400077)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods


MikeHulbert - 9/16/2009 7:34 AM

For all Jerkbaits, I use the Musky Armor 9 footer. Long rods help keep those "slashers" that just get the back hook pinned and in the net. Easier to cast, easier to retrieve and like I said, helps keep those "barely hooked" fish pinned.


I also use these rods for jerkbaits.
Duane L
Posted 9/16/2009 11:12 AM (#400122 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods


I had Keith from Professional Edge make me up a custom jerk bait rod.
Diamond back blank, fuji guides, thick cork handle.
He does really nice work, takes a lot pride in every rod he makes.
Well worth the wait in my estimation.
The Okumas look like a nice set up too.....might want to check them also.
STUSHSKY
Posted 9/16/2009 4:59 PM (#400200 - in reply to #400122)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods




Posts: 375


i went from five rods in the boat four years ago, one being a 7' 6" xh "jerk bait" rod, and i'm down to three now. all are 9' croix legends from keith at proedge. of those three the one that i pick up 95% of the time is the xh big dawg. i can do anything with a jerkbait on that big dawg that i could with my has-been 7' 6"er and i absolutely prefer the added length / upper end "give" that 9'ers give when i "need" it. i am always in the bow of my deep v so possibly that is one reason i can "get away with" longer rods. for me i just can't see any reason to go back to the short sticks!

thanks mike hulbert, i spoke to you a few years back and you convinced me that the longer rods were THE way to go and you were right!

Edited by STUSHSKY 9/16/2009 5:43 PM
Beaver
Posted 9/16/2009 5:48 PM (#400219 - in reply to #400200)
Subject: RE: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 4266


St Croix 'The Jerk'. I dare you to find a better jerkbait/glider rod.
If you're short, go with a St Croix 6'9" Made in the USA, not the ROC.
Keep people in Wisconsin employed.
Kwestlund
Posted 9/20/2009 12:02 PM (#400906 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 113


Location: Northwest Wisconsin
Thanks for all the suggestions. Was going to order the Okuma XXH 8'6" Telescopic from R&H's but decided to drive down there to actually check it out. Rod felt good so I went with it. Got home and did some casting from the dock and it did take awhile to get used to it but man so much nicer then the 10fter I was using. Went out to Busky on wed after noon and boy pulling in the super model was so much easier. 1 small guy followed up then what would have been easily my PB came in hard followed my 8 for two turns and missed :(. Kept up the 8 for awhile as I watched her slowly sink out of sight , WHAT A RUSH. Then got out on a nice little small lake with a buddy and caught one with the rod and again no comparison to what I was previously using. Only problem now is I really want another true musky rod so I dont have to bother with the 10fts anymore.

k
nclaker
Posted 9/20/2009 7:25 PM (#400983 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods




Posts: 83


Congrats on the new rod, glad to hear it's working out for you. Sounds like you need to make another trip to R&H.
Roughneck1860
Posted 9/27/2009 7:09 AM (#401935 - in reply to #399877)
Subject: Re: Jerk Bait Rods





Posts: 295


Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair
What weight baits are most of you guys throwing with the rods you suggest? I have a 6'10" XH Okuma EVX that I like for smaller/light baits (under 4-5oz) but I'd like to find something with a little longer butt section that can handle stuff like my bigger 6-8oz gliders. Any suggestions?

Thanks
Tim


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