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| I read with interest the reel threads with guys that "blow up there reels" while fishing. I don't fish as much as some of the others here,but in my 30 years of chasing muskies, I've had 3 reels fail, 2 with anti-reverse problems and a spool freeze up. So here's the scenario. Your sitting at a desk with a reel engineer, the maufacturer is irrlevant and he says to you"I here you have problems with your reels,they seem to blow up on you." "Lets design a musky reel". He has blank sheets of paper in front of him and a sharpened pencil in his hand. What do you tell him? Don't just say build me a reel that will last,but be specific. Kdawg |
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| I would say dont make them in China. |
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Location: The desert | Scottie Thomas - 8/29/2009 11:56 PM
I would say dont make them in China.
Yeah, I'd go with Sweden, they seem to have a pretty decent track record with fishing reels. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | The best reels made today come from JAPAN, Here is a DAWIA MONOBLOCK , BESPORK, RYOGA, and a SHIMANO CONQUEST.
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Location: Twin Cities | No plastic. |
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| Made in the USA or others but not China! Are we throwing DCGs or ... |
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| I don't care where it's made as long as it's made right. China can make just as good of product as any other country it's just that most companies send production there to make them cheaper, not better.
As for plastic there are places that plastic works as good as metal and in fact some places, like the level wind cog gear, that plastic works better than metal. But I would agree that there should not be plastic in certain stress areas. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | reelman said it.
Any reel can and will wear out or fail. Top quality components, excellent tolerances, and you have a good reel. I would also think a requirement in this discussion to set a price point; the 'best' reels are out of reach for many folks, so the 'best' reel for $120.00 is going to be quite different than the 'best' reel for $300.00 |
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1. low enough profile where you can palm the reel easily
2. "power" handle with a comfortable grip that won't bend, and is light enough where it won't cause the reel to engage mid-cast
3. levelwind that isn't sloppy, with a pawl and worm gear that last more than a season or two
4. Main drive hear and pinion gear made of some material that doesn't wear easily, that maintains a close tolerance throughout several seasons and does not begin to grind or become noisy
5. Anti-reverse that doesn't fail due to contamination with grease or fishing in very cold or rainy conditions, or sometimes for no apparent reason at all
6. A spool that only holds enough line for the longest cast you will ever make, and about 10 yards on top of that, that does not require you to use a mono backing
7. Sideplate screws that do NOT come loose
8. One piece frame
9. A "smart" brake control/weight system that allows you to throw the heaviest lures with ease and still has the sensitivity to toss a Suick into the wind
10. A drag adjustment that you can actually reach and manipulate easily, if necessary, on a boatside strike
11. eliminates the need for having a reel for double 10's, a reel for small bucktails, a reel for jerkbaits, etc.
That is a reel right there that I would happily pay $200+ for. In fact, I'd buy three of them, as long as I knew that at the end of 100 or so days on the water they'd still be working like they did when new.
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Location: Contrarian Island | I don't think it's possible to design one reel that will do it all... I don't mind having bait and rod specific reels...that is part of the fun of getting everything really dialed in imo...
I wouldn't have many requests..many have been mentioned above
basically a reel that can withstand the pounding of a couple hundred hours and not have the anti reverse go out is a big thing
I actually had a 100 dollar bass pro pete maina reel take more of a pounding and keep working longer than a $350 TE., has been back to shimano 2 x...so cost is not really a factor on whether a reel will or won't hold up...my old 6600 Morrums to this day are one of the reels that fail me the least and I beat reels and spend as much time on the water as most non guide fishermen...how can they make a reel 10 yrs ago that holds up better than the stuff they kick out today? that being said, I do have 2 Revos that so far have been great...
I'd ask for quality parts, as little plastic as possible, a smooth drag system, and the best ball bearings they can get...
reels are simply always going to break, just find ones that break as little as possible!
Edited by BNelson 8/30/2009 11:54 AM
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| I would like to see the following:
- A power handle that is perfectly balanced with a counter weight at the opposite end of the handle. Otherwise, the reel could engage prematurely in the middle of a cast.
- A threading hole in the spool barrel so the line won't slip.
Brian
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| make sure its available in left hand. |
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Location: On my favorite lake! | I would like something that has beefed up gears, antireverse and drag. No plastic internally. I also like a thumb bar, good line capacity and different speeds available. I would prefer made in the US but that in a reel is nonexistant from what I've seen. |
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| I was wondering the other day with all the people complaining about burning up reels why they don't make them with a sun gear setup, rather than a spur gear. A sun gear should be able to be compact yet substantially stronger than a spur gear could ever hope to be, way more load bearing capacity within the same diameter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicyclic_gearing
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| IMO, I think that some people are better with some reels you just have to find one that matches your "style" of fishing the ones that don't match your style are proably the ones that are "blowing up" on you. The guy above was talking about different gearing, why does'nt a tool maker out there try to do some mods on some reel gears? If they can make something different that lasts longer it may be an alternitive! If nothing else they can have a reel that they improved for themselves!
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| 73, That gearing system looks very much like the Planetary gears that Abu used on there EON reel a couple years ago. It was a good gear concept that was put into a not so good reel.
Lightning, The Revo Toro comes pretty darn close to what you describe. Beefed up gears, beefed up drag, dual anti-reverse, thumb bar, good line capacity. The only thing that it doesn't have of your specs is that some internal parts are plastic, but I truelly beleive that in some spots plastic will out perform metal in reel parts. Not all part by any means but there are places that plastic is better. Made in America? Well I can't see that happening anytime soon unfortunatly. |
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