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Muskyfisher
Posted 5/5/2009 9:11 PM (#376304)
Subject: Glider tips





Posts: 209


Location: Big Falls MN
Hey guys i would like to try to make a few gliders whats the best way to weight them and the wood to usei i would like to make a shad type glider and help would be great

Thanks
Coty Pihlaja
Yake Bait
Posted 5/5/2009 10:39 PM (#376331 - in reply to #376304)
Subject: Re: Glider tips





Posts: 388


I prefer maple for gliders, less weight to add for desired bouyancy.

There are numerous ways to go about making the lure.  Just some pointers as far as what I do.  I'm sure you will get some other good advice.

Trick is to find the right amount and location of weight to add to the lure.  Install the hardware to the rough finished lure.  Find a place to float the lure and do some bouyancy testing (I use the tank on the back of my toilet).  Find the spot that you can grab the lure with a finger on each side and pull it under water, while the lure balances with its back level to the horizon. If it tries to sit nose up - move forward, nose down - move back. Mark this spot. I call this the "center of bouyancy" for lack of a better term.  Attach lead until you find the desired bouyancy.  Drill a hole in the belly at the "center of bouyancy", melt lead and pour into into this hole. Seal the hole with 5 minute epoxy.

For starters I woud suggest not finishing the lure until you test how it runs. You can experiment a little with amount of lead until you like what you see before you invest time and effort into the finish. Be sure to err some to the light side as far as bouyancy to account for addition al sink from the paint and epoxy coat. You can always add another epoxy coat or heavier hooks if you end up a little lighter than you want but it is difficult to go the other way if you are too heavy.

Keep a template of what you use to trace the original lure with details as far as where you put the hardware and lead. This way you can duplicate and improve the design as you go along. Keep close track of how much lead you use and depth of lead hole (or holes if you decide to try dual placement). I use the big water gremlin sinkers so I can count out the number that I need for a given lure design.

Good luck and hope you enjoy the experience.



Edited by Yake Bait 5/5/2009 10:50 PM
Muskyfisher
Posted 5/6/2009 8:11 PM (#376544 - in reply to #376304)
Subject: Re: Glider tips





Posts: 209


Location: Big Falls MN
thanks for the info yake i cant wait to get started . Anyone have any good other tips i need all the hlp i can get.
BruceKY
Posted 5/6/2009 11:55 PM (#376602 - in reply to #376544)
Subject: Re: Glider tips





Posts: 392


Location: KY
I like working with maple, poplar, pine, and cedar. Each one has a different density and will need more or less lead. Most tend to use the heavier woods for gliders. Get your lure shaped out and seal with one coat of epoxy. Add screw eyes split rings and hooks. Float the lure in a sink, bucket, toilet etc. Use egg sinkers on the hooks to find the right amount of lead to get it to sink close to level. Drill holes for the lead near the head and tail of the bait. Either pour melted lead directly into the bait, or just use epoxy to hold the egg sinkers in. It is then easy to use a drill to fine tune the balance front to back. Don’t drill into a lure with hooks attached! After you have the sink rate dialed in fill the remaining holes with epoxy or similar.

good luck
Pikopath
Posted 5/7/2009 1:31 AM (#376612 - in reply to #376602)
Subject: Re: Glider tips




Posts: 501


Location: Norway
BruceKY - 5/6/2009 11:55 PM
Don’t drill into a lure with hooks attached!


Hehe Ive done that once, not smart

I use epoxy putty instead of epoxy to seal the lead holes. I also seal the lures with cd-covers (jewelcases) dissolved in thinner, let it soak the first time, then drill/pour lead.

Michael
Muskyfisher
Posted 5/8/2009 10:35 AM (#376858 - in reply to #376304)
Subject: Re: Glider tips





Posts: 209


Location: Big Falls MN
ok thanks guys going to go find some wood today cant wait to get started!
Pearson_Plugs
Posted 7/10/2009 8:05 PM (#388024 - in reply to #376304)
Subject: RE: Glider tips





Location: Ohio
Different wood types may have the same action depending on the wait added but every type of wood throws off different types of vibrations in the water, for example if you are using a cedar bait in shad with lots of follows switch to maple or poplar and in the same color and the fish will try to tear it apart. When making your glide baits try to make 2 or 3 the sam but use different woods in the same color pattern.
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