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ghitierman
Posted 5/10/2009 10:58 AM (#377129)
Subject: Okauchee fish





Posts: 284


If anybody catches a nice fish on Okauchee with a silver bulldawg in it's lip you could be so kind as to return it to me. Lost a nice fish Friday afternoon cause my #*^@ Tuff Line broke again.
A Rod
Posted 5/10/2009 11:18 AM (#377140 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish




Posts: 38


That stinks!!!
Hatcher
Posted 5/10/2009 12:13 PM (#377149 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: RE: Okauchee fish




Posts: 62


What lb. Tuff Line are you using?
Sam Ubl
Posted 5/10/2009 12:16 PM (#377150 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





Location: SE Wisconsin
That bait's sitting on the bottom by now, but I feel your pain! Lost a good fish out there last year on a bucktail when my 80lb PP broke. . . Must not have seen a nick in the line or something, sucked either way! My buddy had brand new 100lb put on his Dawging rod last year and hooked a tanker - broke the stuff right before he slid it in the net
Muskerboy
Posted 5/10/2009 12:54 PM (#377154 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





Posts: 727


Ouch man, that sucks. One of my buddies had his line snap at the boat just before he slid the fish in the net. Came back the next day and saw his dawg sitting on the bottom of the lake, he was able to get it back. Good luck finding it.
Bytor
Posted 5/10/2009 1:00 PM (#377155 - in reply to #377154)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





Location: The Yahara Chain
Check the guides on your rod. That line should not be breaking.
Slamr
Posted 5/10/2009 8:55 PM (#377220 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





Posts: 7038


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
A second of checking the line guides. None of the popular brands of superline (PP, Tuff Line, Spectron) should be breaking on fish. Guys I know (including myself) routinely pull baits out of snags by hooking the line on the cleat of the boat and pulling the tree/rock from the bottom! Unless it was an 80lb+ fish....
A Rod
Posted 5/10/2009 9:00 PM (#377224 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish




Posts: 38


Q Tips are good for checking line guides
ghitierman
Posted 5/11/2009 1:02 AM (#377264 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





Posts: 284


80 lb tuff line. I will never buy it again. This isn't the first time. And I take all precautions. I have no nicked eyes and I routinely pull about 8 feet off every time I go out. Three years ago I lost a one of a kind Slammer and a monster of a fish I never saw on Eagle and I switched off this crap. Some reason I thought I'd give it another shot this year. I think they should pay me back for my baits.
Netman
Posted 5/11/2009 6:42 AM (#377274 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: RE: Okauchee fish





Posts: 880


Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151
I had problems with Tuff-line also and switched to the Superbraids and problems went away. The fray problems with the tuff-line is something that causes weak spots in your spool. The switch is well worth the little additional funds to avoid headaches later.

Bruce
knooter
Posted 5/11/2009 6:59 AM (#377276 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
Any line can break if it gets nicked. Sometimes there's nothing you can do. If a fish rolls and gets the line in it's mouth for a split second, it's over. I've only lost one bait due to line breakage on a fish, and that shouldn't have happened because I saw the line starting to fray but didn't want to re-tie until we switched spots. I learned my lesson. If you're using the original Tufline, not the XP, I'd suggest switching. There are better lines out there. The XP has been good to me, as has Stren Superbraid, Cortland Masterbraid, and PowerPro. They all have their good and bad characteristics, but are amazingly strong and durable.
Wimuskyfisherman
Posted 5/11/2009 11:49 AM (#377354 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: RE: Okauchee fish




Posts: 229


I have been using 80 lb Tuf-Line plus for at least 10 years and have NEVER had it break off on a fish EVER. You guys that are loosing fish on your superlines need to check your setup as something is DEFINATELY wrong. Slightly nicked rod guides will fray superlines, my guess that is one of the problems you guys are seeing. Baits touching hooks and slightly cutting line is another possible problem. The brand of line you are using is not the problem, check your setups!!!

John
Sam Ubl
Posted 5/11/2009 12:43 PM (#377370 - in reply to #377129)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





Location: SE Wisconsin
I have to bite here.

Listen, a line can acquire a weakness in anyone's spool - even those of you lucky enough to have never had it happen. We all can agree the lines we use are amongst the best you can buy, but *#!$ happens. It has happened to me, does that make me an irresponsible fisherman? Do you honestly check your line all the way back on each retrieve of every cast? Of course not. Sure, most if not all of us do a once over a couple feet above our leaders, as well as our leaders, after landing a fish or a pulling free of a snag in a crib - what have you, but after so many times on the water it isn't impossible for the unthinkable to happen - especially with examples like WImuskyfisherman suggested. I've been fishing a lot of years and it happened to me, and I think I'm pretty thorough with as much as these fish mean to me, the last thing I let myself be is ignorant. Plain and simple, this isn't an impossibility.

Edited by Sam Ubl 5/12/2009 11:21 AM
Junkman
Posted 5/11/2009 2:02 PM (#377390 - in reply to #377370)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish




Posts: 1220


I was fishing with one of the new Bulldawg rods a few weeks back and the snap swivel got sucked into what I think is a good looking, but not the best last line guide tip. After several hours of fishing, I noticed that the ceramic insert had been busted out during that fracas and it was causing the line to be abraded. I've replaced the tip, still really like the rod, but knew enough to cut off a casting distance worth of line. Many times it is this sort of thing that will cause line to break, or perhaps an errant cast fouled in a Shorestation, or just a jagged rock that got into the way of one of your retrieves. I'd say it is almost never the braid itself that fails. You really need to examine line and, Ive broken at least three line guide ceramics in the last year. Marty Forman
Wimuskyfisherman
Posted 5/12/2009 9:26 AM (#377563 - in reply to #377370)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish




Posts: 229


Sam-

If you have a break off on a fish once, then I understand. But it sounds like some of this people in this thread have had MULTIPLE break offs... If so, something is wrong. Superlines just don't break while fighting fish- I am sorry I have never seen this happen. Is it impossible- no- but highly improbable. If you are seeing fish break your superline or backlashes break your superline... Something is wrong- check your setup. Frayed or fuzzy line is a definate sign of a bad line guide.

John
Jason Bomber
Posted 5/12/2009 10:01 AM (#377577 - in reply to #377563)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish





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Wimuskyfisherman - 5/12/2009 9:26 AM

Sam-

If you have a break off on a fish once, then I understand. But it sounds like some of this people in this thread have had MULTIPLE break offs... If so, something is wrong. Superlines just don't break while fighting fish- I am sorry I have never seen this happen. Is it impossible- no- but highly improbable. If you are seeing fish break your superline or backlashes break your superline... Something is wrong- check your setup. Frayed or fuzzy line is a definate sign of a bad line guide.

John



YUP!


Just to bring up something that I've seen some but not all people over look..........
Taking a few feet of line off is not usually enough.
The spot your hooks hit line most often is closer to the reel, where the bait is hooked while in the truck/on the road/ on your way to a spot. Distance from there to the tip is give or take 6', then the distance from the tip to the reel? another 6 or so feet.
It may kinda suck thrownig away 12-15 feet of line, but thats the spot I see the most frays in peoples line.

I'm not saying yank 15 feet of line off everytiem your on the lake, I'm just saying thats a spot worth checking.

Wimuskyfisherman
Posted 5/12/2009 10:32 AM (#377586 - in reply to #377577)
Subject: Re: Okauchee fish




Posts: 229


One more thing. After you have boated a fish, check your line. When they are thrashing in the net, that is when line and leaders get damaged. I probably have to either replace my leader or at least cut off a few feet of line after 50% of the fish that hit the net. It is a pain, but take a look at your line after you have boated one, you will likely see some fraying or damage where the hooks, leader, gills, teeth, etc. have made contact.

John
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