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Labs
Posted 4/20/2009 1:19 PM (#373117)
Subject: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 114


Location: New London, Wisconsin
Looking to add one more rod the the boat this season. I still have my first, St Croix 6'6" with a Shimano Bantam reel (sentimental). ANyhow, currently have a 8' St Croix MH, 8' Fig Rig XH, 7'9" Legend and a 7'6" St Croix H. Looking at the best bet for an 8'6" in the $200 neighborhood.

All thought and opinions are appreciated.

Thanks guys,
Labs
phil
Posted 4/20/2009 1:30 PM (#373118 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8' 6" rod choice??


What do you want to throw w/ it?
gopackgo
Posted 4/20/2009 1:32 PM (#373119 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8' 6" rod choice??





Posts: 386


Lamiglas LGM86XH is a sweet rod for $189 shipped. It is a very versitile rod, will throw anything from 1-8oz lures and has a lifetime warranty. Can't go wrong!
mseybert
Posted 4/20/2009 1:35 PM (#373121 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8' 6" rod choice??





Posts: 444


Location: Indiana
phil asks an important question. But in that price range, if you are looking for something for baits 3 ounces and up, go with the St. Croix premier 8'6" XHF. I have one and love it.
WI Skis
Posted 4/20/2009 1:39 PM (#373123 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8' 6" rod choice??





Posts: 547


Location: Oshkosh
I would look at the St Croix Premier 8'6" XH 4-10 oz or the Musky Innovations 8'6" H 2-10 oz rods. I own the MI and it is good for double tens and great for mag dawgs. I have used the St Croix and it worked good for the same applications.

Peter
Labs
Posted 4/20/2009 2:01 PM (#373129 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8' 6" rod choice??





Posts: 114


Location: New London, Wisconsin
Mostly 10X10's and Dawgs...but who knows, I may try others if I like it. I was reading on here, I think, that the long rod can reduce fatigue by creating less work on jerks and glides...I won't pigeon hole it right away until I use it.

I was leaning to the St Croix but the Lamiglas has me thinking...heard good things about them.

Who ships it for $189?

Thanks for the help...
Labs




Edited by Labs 4/20/2009 2:05 PM
Jsondag
Posted 4/20/2009 4:19 PM (#373164 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8' 6" rod choice??





Posts: 692


Location: Pelican Rapids, MN
I quadruple the vote - 8'6" St. Croix Premier XH - It's the best rod in that length for that price range!
greenduck
Posted 4/20/2009 4:25 PM (#373166 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8' 6" rod choice??




Posts: 354


I've heard quite a few good things on here about the Okuma telescoping 8'6" rod. I'm thinking of buying one. Something else to consider.
Slamr
Posted 4/20/2009 4:35 PM (#373169 - in reply to #373166)
Subject: Re: 8' 6" rod choice??





Posts: 7039


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Just an FYI: if you're looking for the longer rod with a longer handle (15"-16") go with Okuma XH at $129 or the Lamiglas XH. I own both, but find myself throwing w/ the Okuma more often because of past durability issues with the Lamiglas lineup.
CiscoKid
Posted 4/20/2009 8:28 PM (#373214 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
The 8'6" XH Lamiglas is definitely the rod I would go with. Throws everything well, and is the workhorse in my boat. The rod loads up beautifully to cast lures a long ways, and keeps a great bend in the rod while fighting fish. I just got an 8' XH Lami just to see how I like it in comparison to the 8'6", but I highly doubt I will throw it as much as the 8'6".

Slamr I am curious to know what issues you had with the Lami's.

Edited by CiscoKid 4/21/2009 8:52 AM
sworrall
Posted 4/20/2009 8:31 PM (#373217 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Another vote for the Okuma.
Labs
Posted 4/21/2009 8:27 AM (#373310 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 114


Location: New London, Wisconsin
Thanks for all of the replies guys. It certainly helps.
Have a great season.
Doug


Edited by Labs 4/21/2009 12:54 PM
gopackgo
Posted 4/21/2009 8:44 AM (#373316 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 386


Hi's tackle company sells the Lamiglas for $189 shipped.

http://www.histackleboxshop.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=LAMI...
scmuskies
Posted 4/21/2009 10:03 AM (#373342 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 258


Location: Mayville, WI
sled - 4/20/2009 6:03 PM
i watched a guy break 2 chinese lamiglass rods in my boat within 15 casts of each other.


When did I miss this breaking news update that the Chinese bought out the State of Washington?

Another vote for the 8'6" XH from Lamiglas. Never had a single issue on any of my Lami's after 12+ years of use & abuse.

sc
MuskieMike
Posted 4/21/2009 10:08 AM (#373348 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?





Location: Des Moines IA
Okuma 8'6 XH, or the Lamiglass XH both are excellent rods ............ The Okuma does the same job the Lami does for less $ IMO. Not to mention the excellent warranty and customer service!!!
curleytail
Posted 4/21/2009 10:40 AM (#373358 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I just got an 8'6" Jason Hamenick "Hamer" rod. Musky season isn't open so I haven't been able to fish with it, but I've made a few casts with it on the local pond (no muskies in it). It casts 11" Curly Sues, Mag Dawgs, and Pounders really well. I brought along a few lighter baits and it seemed to do a good job with them too. I haven't thrown anything a LOT, and I didn't want to throw many smaller baits in fear of getting accused of fishing for northerns the lake has, but I think the rod will cast a wide range of lure weights pretty well. Jason said he designed it to throw Double 10s and Rubber, so that encompases a pretty wide range of weights. I would say it has a relatively (but not overly) soft tip, and a nice backbone that rips big baits well and would seem to do a great job of setting hooks and controlling fish.

I have to give too much of a glowing report since I haven't been able to put in hours of use with it or catch anything on it, but it seems like it will work really well. Everything I have heard about them has been good too. They go for $180 and it shipped to me for $20, so it would meet your $200 requirement.

I have an Okuma 8'6" XH also and like that rod a lot too. It's a lot more limber in the tip, and stays fairly soft a ways into the blank. This makes casting very easy with lots of different baits. It does load up quite a bit while working heavy baits or doing fast figure 8s with double 10s, but everything is a compromise. They are coming out with an 8'6" XXH, which I have a feeling has a little faster tip on it that I would have been very interested in had I not been able to get the Hamer (the Hamer was actually a present given to me).

The Okuma rods have excellent quality - especially for the price.

curleytail

Edited by curleytail 4/21/2009 10:42 AM
Troyz.
Posted 4/21/2009 11:20 AM (#373369 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?




Posts: 734


Location: Watertown, MN
Good Point sled, there is a reason some builders have dropped some well known blanks in the past.

I would get will Keith at Pro Edge, and get a customet St Croix done, he can tailor it to what you want, thick handle, syncork, and ex long but, not a better builder out there.

Troyz
CiscoKid
Posted 4/21/2009 12:02 PM (#373378 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Sled thanks for clearing your post up! It's too bad your post got edited to say something you weren't intending it to say.

My fingers are crossed on the 8' XH I just got. I did not hear of any issues on the 8'6" XH Lami stick however.
jonnysled
Posted 4/21/2009 12:39 PM (#373387 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
http://reviews.ebay.com/What-Lamiglas-am-I-really-buying_W0QQugidZ1...

as with most private-labeling ... buyer beware. these suppliers/manufacturers are living in a dynamic market so you as a consumer just need to keep learning about what's going on in order to protect yourself. here is an example of many, many, many examples. do your research especially if you plan to spend a lot of money. you can buy a chinese rod for about $50-75 bucks or you can buy a quality rod or even a quality custom rod for the money you are talking.

when you buy st. croix you know what you are getting

when you buy loomis (now owned by shimano) or lamiglas make sure you do your homework because they are sourcing in a variety of ways throghout their product lines, still offering the highest quality in some lines mind you. there is usually an identifier in either an alternate brand model or in the nomenclature ... look for ISU in the prefix of the lamiglas rods. GLoomis is enveloped into the shimano sourcing, manufacturing and distribution businesses.

or, as troyz stated .. go to keith at professional edge and get some really up-to-date and accurate advice from someone you can trust who knows what's going on in the business at the moment you ask him. he actually cancelled a rod i had ordered so that i wouldn't get caught in an inferior blank when diamondback was playing their sourcing games. that's what i call taking care of your customer!

Edited by jonnysled 4/21/2009 12:54 PM
Slamr
Posted 4/21/2009 1:26 PM (#373403 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 7039


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I broke three Lamiglas rods in 2 years. Once while "crossing swords" on the cast, the other two by throwing heavier lures (mag dawgs I believe). Great rods with really great feel to them, I just felt like I was renting (because of paying shipping back and forth) them more than anything.

I still have an 8'6 XH, still use it, but wouldnt dare throw anything heavier than a medium dawg with it. However, it's about 3 years old and they might have gone with a heavier blank.
sling blade
Posted 4/21/2009 1:32 PM (#373406 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?


why do guys buy and stick with rods that they continually have break or hear break? never understood it. Fig Rigs have been known to break. A LOT. sure he backed them up but doesn't it get to be a pain shipping them back and forth and not having a rod on the water?
Buy something that doesn't break and you'll be much happier day to day.
St Croix Premiers are a good rod for the money you want to spend.
Hammskie
Posted 4/21/2009 1:36 PM (#373407 - in reply to #373403)
Subject: Re: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 697


Location: Minnetonka
I've used a Thorne Brothers 8'6" C-Series rod for 2 years and I'm currently getting a 2nd one built to 9'3" since my first one has been so good to me.

It's a great rod for big plastics and bucktails and you can get one custom built for under $200!!! Their components are top quality.

Hope this helps. Good luck in your search!

aNDY

Edited by Hammskie 4/21/2009 1:47 PM
Reef Hawg
Posted 4/21/2009 1:38 PM (#373410 - in reply to #373117)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
Tooth Tamer rods(previously Fig Rig, but new and improved by new owner), has made a really nice 8'6" per my request, and will be sold in the $149 range. The rod will be a multi purpose, though I would save the pounder duty for another model. Will be a great stick for double 10's and cranks though.

That said, I am interested in the Okuma telescoping rods. I have a 7'9" locker and something like that might just be the ticket. Also interested in a reel for jerkbaits with an excellent anti reverse. Okuma might get a call from me on tha too, though can't decide on the red or gold one.




Edited by Reef Hawg 4/21/2009 1:47 PM
muskie24/7
Posted 4/21/2009 8:14 PM (#373498 - in reply to #373410)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 909


I just got a Thornes Custom 9' rod! I told them I wanted an all Purpose Rod! I was floored by the beautiful and light Rod they sent me! For $220 to the door, you can't go wrong!

Brian
shaley
Posted 4/21/2009 8:52 PM (#373509 - in reply to #373498)
Subject: RE: 8'6" rod choice?





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
I have a Thorne Bros C series to and I use it more than my Croixs or my Loomis. I should be getting my new Throrne Predator this week, when I need another new rod chances are it will be another Thrornes rod.
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