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| Read an article in the local outdoor section today + the writer said that this disease outbreak seems to have concentrated around Vermont Wis. near Madison. Supposedly they've authorized the harvesting of up to 15,000 whitetails in the area in the very NEAR future...he also stated that hunting licenses are expected to plummet this fall. Anyone familiar w/ this? The game dept. here is keeping close watch since 3 surrounding states have imported elk from out west + they wander over time. I was wondering since many of you that musky fish also hunt..... |
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| Yes, they found CWD in the wild deer herd through random testing after last falls hunting season. They got a positive result on 3 samples, and then set up a "surveillance hunt" where they harvested deer within a 10 mile area around where the first 3 were found. from this hunt, they found 15 more positives to make the total 18 so far. Now they have set up an "eradication zone" where they want to harvest 25,000 deer and try to get the whitetail population within that area as close to zero as possible. To get the full details on the CWD problem in Wisconsin's wild whitetail herd, go to http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/whealth/issues/CWD/ind... |
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| CWD, is a modified protein not a bacteria or virus. It causes some how, the similar proteins in the deer's brain to morph, which can kill the animal within 4 years. It is spread by contact such as nuzzling and feeding. The sad part is that the only tests that are used require the head to be shipped to a lab for analysis. This apparently is very hard on the healthy deer!
The protein isn't affected by cold, or heat below 900 degrees F. From this information, if all the deer are killed, and new ones move into the area some time in the future, this could start all over again. It is very bad..... |
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| I sincerly hope the DNR can contain the disease, as I am an avid deer hunter in the North.
The disease could be based as Mad Cow is, caused by feeding sheep parts to cattle in comercially made feeds. The prion that causes the disease is not really a living organism at all, just a protien, as Steve said. I have never understood the use of animal parts in feed for deer or cattle, crazy stuff. We may have brought this on ourselves...[:blackeye:] [:knockout:] |
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| I'm sure deer license sales and hunting itself will definitely suffer this fall as it has also been reported that many (if not most) deer processing facilities in the area will not be processing harvested deer this year...[:knockout:] |
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| A guy we turkey hunt with told us that bone meal is used on some farms as a soil supplement, which could be how this mess started....not good...[:blackeye:] [:knockout:] |
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| There were some numbers today. 260 deer killed, 18 tested positive. There's also talk of expanding the 'kill zone' and upping the number of deer that they want to eradicate. I feel sorry for landowners in the target area[:blackeye:]
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| My worse fears have been confirmed!!! I found myself rubbing some trees in the yard this morning + tore up me forehead...I also made a scrape in the front yard under a sapling before I left for the office....maybe I do have it....[:0] |
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| Make sure you go back and check your scrape. Mrs Sponge might have a late Fathers Day present waiting for you under the licking branch.[:0] |
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| Yes, Spongey One- Runaway-runaway!!!!!! This is a prion disease. There are no known cure's except to try and stop it from spreading by breaking the transmittal link. 900 degree's F temprature is not enough heat!!!! Even the land the infected deer live on is still infected. The landowners in the disease area are the one's who will pay the most heavily, i.e., never be able to hunt deer on their property - because there will be no deer! But their sacrifice will save the rest of the herd. Everyone {other landowners in rest of the state) have to recognize that, and be ready to allow them to hunt in their area's or on their property. Over the last + 30 years I have seen an increased number of "No Hunting/No Tresspassing signs. These are typically put up by myoptic individuals whom feel exclusive ownership is their right. But the fact that whitetails and other game do not read or care about trespassing signs, i.e., they travel at will and frequently cover many square miles.
In Wisconsin, deer hunting has been a great traditional sport, i.e., I've always hunted with my brothers and sisters and my father on our home farm + neighbor's farms(+30 years). Of course neighbor's were always wellcome to hunt our land. I think it's time for the rest of the Wisconsin deer hunting community to step-up and acknowledge the sacrifice these folks are going to have to make.
Have deer been native to most of Wisconsin? Yes- but not always abundant. Not in the ealy 1900's and 1930's! My father told me about moving down to Oakdale WI{Central WI}, from Jump River in the great depression to work for a farmer for room & board (My Grandparents couldn't afford to feed and cloth him, etc + 4 other children & he was the oldest) in + 5 years he saw "1" deer. This is the same man who on his 14th birthday (1930)killed 13 deer from one stand ("Up North") without getting off his stand.
The deer hunters of Wisconsin have to recognise that unless everyone works together there will be an even greater disaster. Everyone will have to sacrifice. Oh yes- By the way, I don't even deer hunt anymore- my hunting partner(Dad) passed away
three years ago. Do I miss the traditions? Yes! But I also don't want to see other son/daughters & fathers to not have the chance to share this special tradition. I don't have No Hunting/No Tresspassing sign's on my property, all you have to do is ask!
We're all part of the solution.
Al Warner
www.icantplayfindmyfoot.com
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| Beav, checked the scrape this morning...a noose was hanging from the licking branch + a note which said anymore tearing up the yard results in being strung up...can't fight back as I'm still in velvet![:(] [:sun:] |
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| Looks like my spot in Boscobel will soon be included. This sucks. If this stuff stays in the ground for so long wouldn’t the deer that move into the area again get infected? Sounds like it could spread to livestock too.
On the lighter side, it looks like another couple of weekends soaking suckers this fall. Here’s a link for info:
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/whealth/issues/CWD/
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| I hope we don't get it here...I planned to hunt off me deck this fall when bow season kicks in! I think Wis. is the first state east of Colorado to test positive for this stuff...I'm concerned because Tn., Ky. + N.C. have imported elk + the game dept. gave its approval to shoot any that wander into Va. I doubt they'd wander this far east but you never know. There used to be a bunch of them here many yrs ago but have been gone along time. Daggone deer are everywhere here + if it takes hold would wipe out a bunch for sure. I basically only meat hunt but we get alot of out of state peeps here also. Guess I'll keep me eyes crossed + hope for the best! [:sun:] |
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| There are definitely a lot of unanswered questions regarding CWD. They are not even sure it is a prion that causes the symptoms, that is just a theory at this point. What bothers me about the whole thing is that Colorado has had this problem for 35 years now and they haven't done anything to contain it. They say they have studied it, but we really don't have many answers. They don't even know how it is spread. They do believe it can be spread by hunters transporting carcasses which is really scary to me. I have neighbors that hunt in Colorado and they bring their deer back every year and process them here. I sure hope they didn't just pitch the head, hide and bones out in the woods though. |
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| They just found a case of CWD in New Mexico. A Mule Deer on some missile base in the middle of nowhere tested positive. |
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| I bet the stuff is all over the place before it's over w/...now they got some kind of something or other that is killing all the tomato plants here in the tidewater area; they may be able to rebound by Labor Day. Too much too fast! |
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| The out west deer density is very low compared to that in WI. In the Rockies, the spread wouldn't be near the speed that it will likely be here. This is not good...[:blackeye:] |
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| Sponge, you have it all wrong. You are thinking of CKD, Cronic Ketsup Disease![;)] |
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| Easy Stever! Tomatoes are taken seriously here + to lose a sizable crop such as is forcast is reason to freak...the tomato here is what cheese is to there! Since the sun beats so bright here, most of us resemble a tomato from the neck up...sorry I can't finish...I'm too upset...the thought of "imported" tomatoes is more than I can bear![:blackeye:] [;)] |
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| Sponge:
Easy man....easy! You're about to go postal on us over this! (heehee) But it's only tomatoes. Now if it were the muskies or rockfish, that'd be understandable. "Imported" tomatoes, gawd I love it!!....[;)]
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| Thanks Mike BUT--- tomatoes are like potatoes are to Idaho...take them away + there's nothing left! The villagers will remain in an uproar until this dilema is solved; no more tomato seed spitting contests this 4th of July...roadside stands will shut down...my only hope is that the peanuts + watermelon rise to the occasion + pull us out of this....[:blackeye:] |
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