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| I'm looking to buy one of those cameras you guys are using to make home fishing videos. Can anyone steer me in the right direction on one that would be good for a starter, and not cost a whole lot of money? Does anyone have one for sale?
Thanks and merry Christmas,
Brian Gilmore 
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Oregon Scientific has a couple, audio isn't the best but the camera isn't bad. Archos and the Archos helmet camera can be bought reasonably. The best out there is a VIO POV, about $650.00. |
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| here's a list of reviews of various options out there, including the Archos, VIO, and even the VholdR that some people were talking about here last winter.
http://helmetcameracentral.com/reviews
i ran an Archos 605 this year:
http://www.archos.com/products/gen_5/index.html?country=global<=en
with a lipstick camera accessory:
http://www.newmp3technology.com/405-cam.htm
unfortunately it was stolen, so i'm looking at replacing it with the VIO model that Steve referenced:
http://www.vio-pov.com/index.php
i'm particularly intrigued by the new mount that will be out soon for the VIO which looks like it will allow for mounting it on top of a baseball cap.
the wide-angle lens makes for less disorienting video when the camera moves, but the downside is fish-eye effect on anything up close. there's some examples of video from that unit with the wide-angle lens here on the site.
all in all i'm leaning toward getting one of these with the standard (non wide-angle) camera.
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| I was going to try and stay under $200. Any suggestions on something like that?
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| I was going to try and stay under $200. Any suggestions on something like that?
here's the updated version of the Oregon Scientific camera that Steve tested last year. bundled with batteries and a 2GB memory card it's only $125.
http://www2.oregonscientific.com/shop/product.asp?cid=8&scid=107&pi...
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Location: Land of the Musky | Anybody have that VIO POV? That looks like it would take 2x-4x better video than the Archos. Any comments on that one? I may have to sell my Archos and buy that one. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | tacklebooty - 12/12/2008 7:14 PM
Anybody have that VIO POV? That looks like it would take 2x-4x better video than the Archos. Any comments on that one? I may have to sell my Archos and buy that one.
Yes. Steve ran it all last year and also had a buddy who ran one this year. Had the opportunity to wear/use it a few times but also was in the boat when they were using it. By far the best hat cam on the market. Only real qualms about it is, you need to carry a lot of extra batteries if your on the water all day. This unit sucks the juice out of them quickly. So have 3-4 sets of re-chargeables are an absolute must.
The one really nice thing about this unit is, is has loop recording. So, it records in fifteen minute loops and if you don't catch a fish it will just keep re-recording over it until you hit a tag button. That way the clip is stored and will start another loop recording. This camera is definitely the cats ass if your looking for a hat cam.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Also, this unit is extremely waterproof, dust proof and shock-resistant. Here is their website, check out all the specs.
http://www.vio-pov.com/products.php?xid=a4015f635f71866ee7d1c9ed2f1... |
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Location: Land of the Musky | I will look into this one. Looks like it takes a better video than the Archos too. Do you know if it has an external battery pack like the Archos has? That was nice to have. I could take it off and change out the batteries in that while the unit stayed on. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | tacklebooty - 12/12/2008 9:36 PM
I will look into this one. Looks like it takes a better video than the Archos too. Do you know if it has an external battery pack like the Archos has? That was nice to have. I could take it off and change out the batteries in that while the unit stayed on.
Yes, video quality is considerable better. You also don't have to worry about checking your connections or something going wrong in the way of things being touchy. This unit is built right and works really good. Their is not an external battery pack. The long vertical thing, the CPU/Recorder thing is where the batteries are stored. You just replace them when needed, so no, being able to keep the unit on when changing out the batteries is not possible. |
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| Did Steve have decent results with that $125 camera from Oregon Scientific ? Is it good enough for a starter setup?
Brian
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | yes, it works pretty well. The audio isn't very good, but for under a hundred bucks if you look around, it isn't a bad set-up |
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| Does anybody know where I can get one of these for under a $100 ?
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | I went to Ebay and did a quick search using the key words "Oregon Scientific," numerous cameras came up for auction. I know I saw one that was at $72 with 17 hours to go. Otherwise, take a look at Oregon Scientific's website.
This model for $109.
http://www2.oregonscientific.com/shop/product.asp?cid=20&scid=77&pi...
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| Has any one ever useed these as a "eye in the sky"? Can these be set up as an all weather birds eye veiw to cover both people fishing? I was thinking of using the remote and having it on a tri pod above us fishing? Any thoughts? Would I be better of with a traditional video camera? |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | Yes, we have used it. I actually had the camera on my head a couple nights late this summer. Here is a short clip from an evening of musky fishing. As for covering other peoples view, if you notice, you can see my partners lure for a bit on the left side of the screen. However, he was standing on the front deck with me so he was pretty close. But the field of view is pretty narrow with this camera, it's pretty much a one man cam, imho.
I think if you rigged the camera somehow in the boat, it would be ok, but like I said, it's got a narrow field of view.
Here is a link to the actually first testing we did with the camera:
http://upload.outdoorsfirst.com/watch.asp?id=1105
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I have a line on a new simple but effective low cost DVR camera unit. Testing this weekend. |
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Location: Kinkaid Lake, IL | 1st-you got me thinking
Steve. let us know how it works out.
Merc/steve- what about the vio pov? If I had it say 6-8 ft above the boat...would I get a good view of the people and figure8/boat side strikes with a good picture? Wide angle lens right. Sound might not be good, but im sure you can add a mic if you wanted. I have some crazy ideas in my head about these cameras. Just want to know before I drop $800 or so bucks. Why would I not just get a HD hand held camera. Guess the "all season weather" option is key. |
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The Vio pov is by far the best camera we've used yet. It's built very strong, good quality video and sound is superb for any camera we've used yet. However, the price is the downfall. If one can afford it, that's the way to go imho. If you get the Vio pov and rig it to a hat like we've been doing, the camera is always pointed where your looking. So, getting boat side strikes shouldn't be a problem.
The problem with a camera mounted within the boat is it's limitation of only having a stationary position. With a hat cam of course, your getting everything you see wherever you go in the boat. Also, say your partner hooks up on a fish, if you've got the camera on your hat, your able to get your view of him all on camera, which in my opinion is pretty cool.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The loop record function on the VIO POV is key, it's weather and shock proof, and now firmware is available for the high capacity SD cards. Best POV camera on the market. The microphone will be OK a few feet away, I think.
Mounting a camera on the boat is easy, but there's no one to run it, so it's static. Coupled with a POV, you can get some pretty cool stuff, I tested a Canon mounted on a rail, my POV, and an Aqua-Vu camera running all at once on the ice last year and will be using that system again this year.
LOTS of editing.
The waterproof housings for cameras work OK, but rain on the lens cover is a big problem. Most are designed for underwater use. |
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Location: Kinkaid Lake, IL | Thanks for the info guys! I still have no clue if I want a pov or hand held for this coming year. The videos are great, but only serve on purpose. The wife might not like that...lol |
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| Are the ATC3K'S Much better than the 2K'S? I hope so, cause I just bid on one!
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | The ATC3k has the ability to use a 4 gig SD card, versus the ATC2k only has a maximum of a 2 gig card. That's your main difference. |
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| Hey Guys, I spoke with the guys at Helmet Cam Central today. They thought that the best set-up for a baseball cap mounted camera would be the "Go Pro Helmet Hero" I did a little research on it and it sounds like a pretty nice set-up. What do you guys know about these? Any good or what?
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Problem with that unit is once it's on, it's on. You will have about an hour of video, then will need to drop in a new card. If anything happens during that hour, you will have to download the entire file and edit to fit. Pretty bulky, too, but will get the job done. |
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| Hey Steve, which Oregon Scientific 2K,3K or the 5K!
Brian Gilmore
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