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Message Subject: Cleaning up photos
muskyhunter24
Posted 12/19/2008 8:52 AM (#350461)
Subject: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Madison WI
Anyone know how to successfully clean up a photo that was taken in really low light conditions so the fish in the picture is very hard to see. I am using microsoft photo editor and if I was able to clean up this pic even a little bit I would be extremely happy.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions
esox50
Posted 12/19/2008 9:06 AM (#350463 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos





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Download Google's "Picasa." Great, simple photo editing/touch-up program that organizes all your photos automatically and allows you to resize them rather easily, too.
Guest
Posted 12/19/2008 9:09 AM (#350464 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: RE: Cleaning up photos


post the pic here, let people play with it and then they can repost their "touched up" photo...that way you will have several different versions and you can pick the best one.
muskyhunter24
Posted 12/19/2008 9:24 AM (#350467 - in reply to #350464)
Subject: RE: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Madison WI
I suppose I can post the beast on here.


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muskyhunter24
Posted 12/19/2008 9:59 AM (#350474 - in reply to #350467)
Subject: RE: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Madison WI
Well here is the touched up photo and its much easier to see the size of this fish.


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esoxfly
Posted 12/19/2008 10:31 AM (#350482 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Kodiak, AK
That picture may not be salvagable. I don't know that it's entirely a light problem. It is dark, but it looks like your issue will be with glare on the water. I'm not sure your camera captured the image of the fish, as the glare from the water overtook the camera, and that's the basis of the image. The other problem is that the camera appears to have metered on the twig right in front of it, and that muted the water and fish behind it.

Your eye probably saw the fish better than what it appears here, but that's because you may have had polarized glasses on, and because it was being seen by a human brain that can pick and choose parts of an image and "reassemble" it into a coherent image. A camera only picks up actual visual information and can't extrapolate the image.

This would've been a pic for a circular polarizer and spot metering, maybe an ISO adjustment, but you can already see in the edited image that it's getting light enough to wash out. That might be about as good as you can get it.

How big was this fish? I can see an outline, and a couple of fins, but it's tough beyond that.
gus_webb
Posted 12/19/2008 10:51 AM (#350484 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: RE: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Nordeast Minneapolis
I'd have to agree with esoxfly (who sounds like he knows a thing or two about photography)... if you're looking to get something out of that you could print and frame, it's just not going to happen. At least not without some significant digital painting at the pixel level. I tried a few of my standard photo-editing tricks, and attached what I could do... not really any different than what you had posted, other than pulling out some of the 'noise' and isolating the fish a bit from the background.

Looks like it was a nice fish, but I think that's a tough shot to pull off without some really nice photography equipment and/or a heck of a lot of luck.


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muskyhunter24
Posted 12/19/2008 11:11 AM (#350485 - in reply to #350484)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Madison WI
Yeah this picture was taken just as the sun was going behind the trees and I wasn't able to get another picture of it because I had to use the flash because of the light conditions and the flash scared it away. I will definetly say that fish is above 45 I know it is probably bigger then that but I can't say to the exact inch at all.
esoxfly
Posted 12/19/2008 1:16 PM (#350504 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Kodiak, AK
Hey Gus, which noise reducer do you use?
gus_webb
Posted 12/19/2008 4:27 PM (#350549 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: RE: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Nordeast Minneapolis
Oh, I'm a Photoshop junkie. I just spent about 5 minutes playing with levels, doing some burning and dodging, and then 'despeckle' in the noise filter section. I suspect with some actual time spent (and a more up-to-date version of the software... I'm still stuck using Photoshop 6), I could get a cleaner and prettier result, but in the little time I spent looking at it it became clear that even after an hour or two it probably wouldn't be that exceptional.
(Sorry for the little 'software geekspeak' for those out there who are smart enough to stay away from such things...)
Derrys
Posted 12/19/2008 5:44 PM (#350558 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos


A circular polarizer would definitely have helped, but they can't be used on a lot of "pocket" cameras. I used to use a free noise reduction program called Noiseware Community Edition. It may still be able to be downloaded.
firstsixfeet
Posted 12/20/2008 9:23 AM (#350638 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: RE: Cleaning up photos




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My best effort. Mistake to not have a flash even with high sensitivty films. Your disposable kodak with 400 would have gotten you a decent shot of this fish, and I always carry one of the cheap buggers with me, of course then it is a challenge to find it in my junk or the boat. And mostly I don't bother anyway, but...




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Yake Bait
Posted 12/20/2008 10:16 AM (#350643 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos





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This is a gamma correction using MS Photo Editor


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cjrich
Posted 12/20/2008 9:12 PM (#350699 - in reply to #350461)
Subject: Re: Cleaning up photos





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Location: Columbus, Georgia
muskyhunter24,

There's a program by Ulead called "Photo Explorer". You can download it from the web for about $30, and it's designed for those that are not Photoshop or other sophisticated program-savvy.

The features include changing contrast. lightening photos, focus, etc. ... all with one click of the mouse.

I have Adobe Design Suite of Programs, and they cost a couple thousand dollars, but when it comes to simply working with pics in the manner that you are speaking about ... I always choose Ulead Photo Explorer.

Check it out.

Craig
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