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CaptainJolly
Posted 11/6/2008 8:29 PM (#344117 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: Re: 55" Green Bay Muskie...





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Congrats again on the big fish, Awesome! This just proves again the great fishery we have here and the reason we need to keep releasing these fish. There is no telling how big these fish can get. We really have no proof of how big they can really get and just emphasis the fact that a 54" limit is not a bad idea. I've been trying to get the education on proper release for sometime now on Green Bay. As a guide, I'm on the water nearly every day and have witnessed some very bad release efforts. Every weekend I see guys letting fish flop around the boat and then holding them up for several photos. I've witnessed fish being out of the water for over 5 minutes. If you get a chance, next time you are at one of the Green Bay boat launches, check out the musky release info signs posted by the Title Town Chapter of Muskies Inc. For more info on proper release methods check out http://www.captainjollycharters.com/pages/posts/do-you-have-the-too...

This was a great catch and release effort, I commend all the anglers involved in this catch for their sportsmanship! Let's all do our part to continue to educate anglers on the proper handling of muskies not only on the Bay, but everywhere else in the muskie world.
dannyboy
Posted 11/7/2008 7:58 AM (#344158 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...


very well said brett.

dannyboy
Guest
Posted 11/7/2008 3:09 PM (#344230 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...


mota
Posted 11/8/2008 12:16 AM (#344304 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: Re: 55" Green Bay Muskie...


BJolly perfect!i just hope everybody here will take a look at the link

Edited by mota 11/8/2008 3:37 AM
tcbetka
Posted 11/12/2008 7:47 AM (#344932 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...




Location: Green Bay, WI
Wow...GREAT fish. I'd really like to think that this was the fish we caught and released last year, at nearly 54". Of course there's NO WAY to know that--but it was in the same area, which means nothing (for the most part).

But I like Brett's point--we just don't really know the potential of these fish. Last night David Rowe gave a fantastic talk at our MI chapter meeting. I videotaped it, but I'm not sure how it turned out yet. The lighting was poor and there was a lot of background noise, so I am not sure how the audio turned out. But I got it all on HD videotape, and will capture the video into the computer tonight. If possible I will upload it to the site here, and folks can watch it. But I think that we are learning more & more ever year about this population--and we are all starting to gain an appreciation for just how big these fish can get.

Man, I hope the video turned out OK from last night--and if it did I will upload the complete talk, and the Q&A session that followed, this weekend. And for Brett...I was very glad you were there and asked the questions you did. As usual, you were right on target.

TB
dannyboy
Posted 11/12/2008 8:01 AM (#344934 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...


hey tom,
is mr. rowe finally ready to concede that they can and have reached 55"??????
the dempsey fish and now the lorenz/wineburner fish proves that......

my $.02.........

look foreward to seeing the video and please let us know when it is up.

dannyboy
tcbetka
Posted 11/12/2008 6:13 PM (#345056 - in reply to #344934)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...




Location: Green Bay, WI
I am capturing the video now. The audio is so-so, because they were playing pool and the mic picked that up of course. It also picked up the conversations from the bar area, lol. I am amazed at how sensitive that microphone is. But I will finish the capture and post what I can. The whole thing will need to be rendered to a different format as I recorded it in HD, so that will take a bit of time. So I will post again when it's online.

To answer your other question... I think that our biologists are well aware of the size these fish are starting to achieve. Any doubts that the fish can reach immense size are quickly being erased, I believe. But the issue is the *number* of these fish that will reach immense size. In any population there are the "Shaq's" and also the "Mini-Me's" in terms of size. That's not the issue here--everyone knows there are a few Shaq's out there. But it's the size of the "near-Shaq" fish that seems open to debate; or more accurately, it's the number of these near-Shaq sized fish that we simply don't know yet. Many of the anglers are telling me that 1) the average size of Green Bay muskellunge they are catching has been increasing over the past few years; and 2) the maximum size of fish being caught seems to be increasing year after year...at least over the past several years. So the issue(s) is/are that if there are more big fish than we realize, and the fish have yet to reach their true potential--then what's the best course of action?

We can talk about all of these things until we're blue in the face, but the bottom line is that if the majority of citizens in Wisconsin want the 54" limit to become a reality, then it will probably happen.

Dave gave a great talk and we had a very informative and educational discussion afterwards. I will try my best to get it online ASAP, and at the very least you'll be able to listen to the audio and see some of his slide.

TB

EDIT: The lecture part of the video seems to have turned out better than I had anticipated, for the most part. So it should work out OK, once I get it edited to the proper size for uploading. There will likely be several parts to the video though, as the entire evening went over 90 minutes.

Edited by tcbetka 11/12/2008 6:41 PM
Mr Musky
Posted 11/12/2008 6:38 PM (#345058 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: Re: 55" Green Bay Muskie...





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There is a pic in this weeks Wisconsin Outdoor News of a lady who caught a 55" er back in October casting on the bay. Judging by the pic that fish is all of 55". Looks longer then 55!

Mr Musky
dannyboy
Posted 11/13/2008 9:02 AM (#345114 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...


i saw that fish in the outdoor news just last night.
definitely quite large.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im sure she is very happy.

dannyboy
tcbetka
Posted 11/13/2008 9:09 AM (#345115 - in reply to #345114)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...




Location: Green Bay, WI
The videos are uploaded in the Video section.

Hopefully they'll be OK for everyone. The lighting was poor, and the background was very noisy--there was a LOT of off-axis noise from the bar area. I went through the footage last night for a few hours and tweaked audio as much as I could though...thank God for automated audio envelopes in non-linear video editors. I used the WMV codec to process the footage, and there are four parts to the talk. The whole thing went for about 90 minutes, including the Q&A session that followed.

But on behalf of the entire Titletown MI chapter, I wanted to take the opportunity to once again say THANK YOU again to David Rowe, our Fisheries Biologist here in Green Bay. He gave an excellent talk, and was very patient to answer everyone's questions. The more I interact with Mr. Rowe, the more certain I am that our fishery is in excellent hands...

TB

Guest
Posted 11/17/2008 11:37 AM (#345606 - in reply to #343531)
Subject: RE: 55" Green Bay Muskie...


Wow - nice fish Larry
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