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| I fish a lake up in Canada with some very big muskies in them. From what I hear, Double Cowgirls and other big bladed baits aren't effective on this body of water. Mepps Musky Killers are supposed to work very well. Do you think this true or I'm being told false information? What are your thoughts?
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| Double 10's work EVERYWHERE |
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| My partner Rock Strongo makes his own double 13 bucktails. There about 20 inches and weigh most of a pound. He can throw 'em all day and catches the big gals on all kinds of waters. He's one powerful dude. He's trying to find some bigger baldes to make a special bait for a secret spot where the biggest mama of alls living. |
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| I'm sure Mepps and other bucktails produce, but the person that gave you that report may also prefer to throw Mepps. I would not discount a bait b/c of a report like that. Big blades will work everywhere...maybe if they are not popular for whatever reason where you are fishing that will give you the advantage...I would give them a try. |
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Location: Dixon, IL | I like Windel's Harasser for a long time and I would like to try Double Cowgirl but problem is very expenisve and not easy to pick one color for over 20 dollars! Cowgirls and Showgirls have lot of colors! I plan to make my own Double Cowgirl! |
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Location: Hayward, WI | I do some lakes may be particular in what preferences the fish have for lures, but a musky is a musky... I had been told that Double Cowgirls don't work in WI. Well, I caught a decent share of my fish this year on the ONE Double Cowgirl I own (I don't fish outside of WI either). I was also told by the same person that on one particular lake, fish showed a preference for smaller baits in the 6-8 inch range. I caught almost all of my fish on that same lake on big plastic and double cowgirls. Smallest baits that caught fish on that lake all year lake was one fish on an 8" Weagle, and one on a Depthraider early in the spring.
Anyway, my point is, any bait can work on any body of water. Some fisheries may have fish that show a preference for smaller baits. This might be due to having a typically small size of forage. Even so, anything can be seen as food to a musky.
Also, lakes can change. The guy that told me about the small baits hadn't fished the lake in several years. Maybe 5 years ago, the lake was full of small walleyes in the 8-12 inch range. Now those 'eyes are typically running 14-17 inches. This may be the reason for the bigger baits working well...or maybe they always worked well and the guy just wasn't using them.
I would suggest taking the advice, and make sure you have some of the baits that were suggested (mepps), but also take along other stuff and don't be afraid to experiment with it.
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Location: Dixon, IL | I noticed that Double Cowgirls doing very well in Minnesota and Canada......spots muskies. Probably not too well for Barred ( Wisconsin) Muskies but I like to hear anyone catch nice size muskies on Double Cowgirls in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pa, Illinois, Missouri and Kentucky! Illinois...possible.....IDNR stocked some spots muskies in Illinois from Minnesota then it might take Double Cowgirls! |
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Location: Southern W.Va. | I for one like the profile of a DCG but I don't like throwing them all day. I much perfer to throw a double #7 or double #8 colorado blade bucktail but I make my own and double the size of the hair making the bait about 10" to 12" long. Much easier to work all day but still has good size and large profile.
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| ILmuskie - 10/26/2008 1:27 PM
I noticed that Double Cowgirls doing very well in Minnesota and Canada......spots muskies. Probably not too well for Barred ( Wisconsin) Muskies but I like to hear anyone catch nice size muskies on Double Cowgirls in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pa, Illinois, Missouri and Kentucky! Illinois...possible.....IDNR stocked some spots muskies in Illinois from Minnesota then it might take Double Cowgirls!
Genetic strains have NOTHING to do with whether a fish will eat a double 10/12 bait or not. Lots of NICE muskies being caught in IL on double bladed bucktails... |
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Location: Hayward, WI | ILmuskie - 10/26/2008 1:27 PM
I noticed that Double Cowgirls doing very well in Minnesota and Canada......spots muskies. Probably not too well for Barred ( Wisconsin) Muskies but I like to hear anyone catch nice size muskies on Double Cowgirls in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pa, Illinois, Missouri and Kentucky! Illinois...possible.....IDNR stocked some spots muskies in Illinois from Minnesota then it might take Double Cowgirls!
Again, I caught muskies in Wi on the DCG. Saying that there is such a difference in strains? Are you referring to the article in Musky Hunter from Steve Genson? One of the things it said was that spots are more likely to hit straight-cranked lures where the barred strains like erratic retrieves with pauses thrown in.
I have never caught spots before, so I can't really comment on that, but we ALL KNOW that the barred strain you see in WI will hit on a straight retrieve. How many WI muskies have been caught on bucktails? LOTS!
The fish that I caught on my DCG this year have only been between 37-39 inches. I didn't catch any BIG fish on this bait, but I would attribute that more to the locations I have thrown the DCG in than to the bait itself. All of my big fish this year came from or near deep structure, usually with soft plastic baits running 6-12 feet down - not exactly bucktail type fishing conditions.
LOTS of big fish caught from WI this year on DCGs from fisherman and guides. I know Scott Kieper uses double 10's a lot, and catches a ton of big fish on Hayward area lakes.
They may be THE thing to throw in MN and Canada at times, but that doesn't mean they NEVER work in other places. I was doubtful until I started throwing them too...
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Edited by curleytail 10/26/2008 2:38 PM
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Location: Dixon, IL | Yes, I got information from Musky Hunters and Muskies, Inc. I am glad that I am wrong! I would try Double Cowgirl in Illinois! Wouldn't hurt to try and see if big musky take it! |
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| I make my own double #13's. There much cheaper, but very tireing to throw. On a recent trip to Canada I rigged two rods; one with double 8's and one with double 13's. When I got tired of throwing the 13's I would switch rods and throw the 8's. Tally for the week - seven fish on the 13's; one on the 8's. All eight fish were between 35 and 40 inches. So, late fall go with the big blades as long as you can! |
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| I fish a lake in Canada where double tens are also less than effective. I talk to guy's who throw them there with very few follows and even less hooked. I use double 8's and single tens with great resuls on this water, I'm not sure why they don't seem too interested in double tens. |
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Location: Dixon, IL | Good idea to have some double 8 and double 10, etc! I believe that right size of blade for right size of tail...I stopped by Bass Pro Shop in northern Illinois and I saw several very large blades that don't match tail...I mean big blades like maybe no. 13 and the body is small....don't look right! Anyone use it?
Plan to make my own no. 9 indian blades with silver/ light blue for lakes with lot of shad while no. 9 indian blades with gold, brown and some black for lakes with lot of suckers, carp and walleye. |
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Location: Twin Cities | ILmuskie - 10/26/2008 3:27 AM
I noticed that Double Cowgirls doing very well in Minnesota and Canada......spots muskies. Probably not too well for Barred ( Wisconsin) Muskies but I like to hear anyone catch nice size muskies on Double Cowgirls in Wisconsin, Ohio, Pa, Illinois, Missouri and Kentucky! Illinois...possible.....IDNR stocked some spots muskies in Illinois from Minnesota then it might take Double Cowgirls!
I caught a 39 in KY this spring on a DCG when the fish were "only eating rattlebaits"....  |
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Location: Dixon, IL | Good to hear that can be use DCG anywhere.......even in spring! |
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| If you want really huge double 10's check out the Rhino from Musky Safari. They are crazy big (not sure what size). He also has a single that has an even bigger blade (size 20?) called the T-Rex. |
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Location: Aurora, IL. | Guys double blades especially 10's work everywhere. I've been making my own since end of last year and have caught big fish in Canada, Ill, Wis, MN, KY. I own quite a few Mayhem lures as well and even though I make my own I wouldnt let go of a half dozen DCG to save my life.
When the fish are eating they'll hit a roostertail, when they're a little more finicky which is most of the time throw your condidence bait and keep it in the water. For me it's a double ten. Regarding flashabou v. maribou- I fished a tournament this weekend and caught fish on both. Man I just like the pulsing flashabou myself.
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| I make my own Dbl. 10's and 13's but still run into some situations where the fish seem to prefer different. There is almost always one of these blades running in my boat with different speeds and depths. However, I have had trips on certain bodies of water where Grinders, M&G's and Mepps Marabou will put more fish in my boat than Dbl. 10's. Much of this is due to the locations we are fishing. Typically in these situations, we have been fishing heavy shallow weeds such as grass and dense cabbage. The Dbl. 10's + tended to get caught in the weeds easier. The baits with #8's can work through or above the weeds a lot better. Still, if conditions allow, I will be throwing larger blades than dbl. 8's. However, I would never discount dbl. #8s. It wasn't all that long ago where these were the "bigger" blades. Many trophy muskies have been caught on them. |
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