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Message Subject: Rod Advice
JRA
Posted 3/6/2008 1:52 PM (#305841)
Subject: Rod Advice




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I am in the market for a 7'6" heavy rod to use with DC 10's and large soft plastics. I am limited to 7'6" due to space in my boat. I have looked at every muskie shop in the area and none of them carry any 7'6" heavy rods. Consequently, I have to buy a rod sight unseen. I am torn between the St. Croix Premier 7'6" H and the Pete Maina 7'6" H. I would probably purchase the latter as a combo, but I already have an Abu 7000C3i to use with the larger baits and bucktails. I would appreciate any advice or recommendations since I will have to buy the rod sight unseen and untried.
shaley
Posted 3/6/2008 1:56 PM (#305842 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
I have both brands mentioned get the Criox.
Targa01
Posted 3/6/2008 2:58 PM (#305855 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
Would someone be willing to post a picture of some of these telescoping rods? I been trying to find some to get my hands on one with no success plus there's not a lot of images out on the web. Wouldn't mind seeing how they are built.

Thanks....
sworrall
Posted 3/6/2008 4:40 PM (#305878 - in reply to #305855)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
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California_Muskie
Posted 3/6/2008 5:03 PM (#305883 - in reply to #305878)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





Posts: 299


Location: Ontario, California
You beat me to it Steve... thank you for doing this.

Mark
curleytail
Posted 3/6/2008 5:58 PM (#305892 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
WOW, looks like telescoping rods have come a long way from how I remember them Seems like the butt end of the blank was always thick, heavy and clunky. I could hardly tell by looking at the butt end of the blank if that Okuma was extended or retracted. Might be something to look into some day.

curleytail
Targa01
Posted 3/7/2008 6:58 AM (#305973 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





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Location: Grand Rapids MN
Thanks Steve... pictures are worth a 1000000000 words.

I've been looking for an 8-8'6" XH in that $100 range and was trying decide between the Figrig and Compre (leaning towards Compre at the moment) but now I see there is another one to throw into the mix for consideration. Do these 'lock' into place pretty well once extended? Sorry for all the questions but this rod might be an answer to my next rod combo.

Thanks in advance....

Edited by Targa01 3/7/2008 7:05 AM
Slamr
Posted 3/7/2008 7:22 AM (#305975 - in reply to #305973)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Do these 'lock' into place pretty well once extended?

*That was my main concern when I first started using the telescoping rods, too. Basically, you extend the longer rod section out til its snug and you cant pull it out anymore. Even pulling double 10s for a full day, the rod doesnt need any adjustment or manipulation back into straight and extended.
Targa01
Posted 3/7/2008 7:45 AM (#305979 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
thanks Slamr. How about alignment issues? Can the blank twist or spin on you? I just read the chat with Mark and that had some good Q&A. I'm really starting to think this will be the rod I get. something i can throw Mag Dawgs with but still light enough for mid-sized cranks.
tndoug
Posted 3/8/2008 6:15 PM (#306228 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice




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I dont have anywere around here to check out musky rods before I buy them. I was interested in the Tica telescoping rods. I checked them out while at the chicago show. I was disapointed in the weight of these rods. They are to heavy for my liking. I do like the figrig jawbreaker. It was one of the best feeling big bait rods I checked out.
Whoolligan
Posted 3/8/2008 8:38 PM (#306248 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice




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Steve is that the Induron reel on it, too? I really am considering that VERY rig for doubles and the like. PLease advise!
FishingFool
Posted 3/8/2008 9:01 PM (#306257 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice




Location: Eau Claire,WI
Tica rods were too heavy???NO bleeping way!!! My smallest Criox weights more than my 8'6" Tica. The weight factor was a big factor in me getting a Tica,my next rod will be an 8' Tica. I love my St Croixs' but for tossing large lures or Mag Daws/Suzy's the Tica get my vote.
sworrall
Posted 3/8/2008 10:59 PM (#306276 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Whooligan, yes it is.
muskydope
Posted 3/8/2008 11:54 PM (#306279 - in reply to #306276)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





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Location: davis,IL
For telescoping rods here is my Tica 8' mh (1 - 4oz lure wght). I had a chance to compare to a lot of other rods at the Thorne Bros store and was very impressed with the weight of the rod compared to other rods. The first and second pics are retracted into the rod butt, the third and forth extended. from 8' extended to about 6.5' retracted.

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PIKEMASTER
Posted 3/9/2008 1:49 PM (#306332 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
TICA 8FT 1-4oz 7.9oz
TICA 8FT 2-8oz 8.3oz


TICA Rods are a lot lighter then the Okuma rods
lambeau
Posted 3/9/2008 2:57 PM (#306343 - in reply to #306332)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice


TICA Rods are a lot lighter then the Okuma rods

no modern rod is really all that "heavy" since the materials are so light-weight. the value-priced rods such as St. Croix Premier, Tica, Okuma, Shimano Compre...they're all on the heavy side when compared to an expensive light-weight rod like a Diamondback. it's splitting hairs a bit between them to say one's heavy and one's light, especially in comparison to the really light-weight rods.

my experience having actually fished with each of the rods was that the Tica telescoping rod felt a tad heavy for my tastes, and the Okuma rod feels surprisingly light for a rod in this price category. they both feel lighter than an older St. Croix Premier (i haven't used the newer ones).

keep in mind that the balance/build of the rod has a big impact on how heavy it feels in your hand: a well-balanced rod can feel lighter even if it weighs slightly more. the Okuma XH i've used since last year is well-balanced and feels comfortable, even when casting very heavy baits.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 3/9/2008 6:19 PM (#306376 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: RE: Rod Advice





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
I had 2 Okuma rods and sold them because I felt that they were on the heavy side and not well balance to my taste . I use CALCUTTA 400TE reels and with the 400TE reel the Okuma rods had a balance point about 4-5" up from the reel on the rod, maybe if you use a 20 plus oz reel they would feel more balance ?? I just got two more TICA RODS at the BLAINE SHOW 1, 3/4-3oz and 1, 2-8oz both in 8'6" and with a 400TE reel they are balance right at the reel on the rod. I got my two Okuma rods and two 8' TICA rods at the CHICAGO SHOW and used them for Barracuda off the coast of Florida to see how I would like them for Musky fishing this year and I really like the feel and the balance of the TICA rods over the Okuma. There were alot of people at the BLAINE SHOW looking for the OKUMA rods and reels but no one had them on display or to sell. I think you really have to hold them in your hand and reel them up with the reel that you use to see which one feels right to U.
sworrall
Posted 3/9/2008 7:48 PM (#306398 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I have several Okuma rods matched with Okuma 200, 250 or 400 reels, and they balance nicely. I held them in my hand, all 4 rod models, and ordered more.

I have several Fig Rigs, and really like those rods, too. I had a couple Shimano rods, they were pretty good sticks as well. I had a couple Rick's Rods customs, those I retired last Fall when Rick passed away. I have several old signature series Aurora rods, those are OK too.

I have never encountered a rod that balanced perfectly at the reel...because I use so many different reels. As an example, one day my EVX C761H might have a Induron 250 strapped up, the next a V-200A. If I want a perfectly tuned up outfit (which I do) I use rod balancers and add enough weight to offset the out of the water weight of the lure I am using, too. My CVX-C-861XH-T matched with a Induron 400 is PERFECT with a double 10 on the leader and 2 ounces in the balancer.

Each to their own.
Targa01
Posted 3/10/2008 7:09 AM (#306440 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
I appreciate the sound advice Steve and others. Without having a lot of experience, nor the bank roll, with a lot of this equipment it's really nice to hear from you guys that get to field test a lot of these different brands and models. Could save me from buying new rods/reels each year which makes life with the wife much easier.

Thanks again fella's.

Mike
MikeHulbert
Posted 3/10/2008 7:41 AM (#306443 - in reply to #305841)
Subject: Re: Rod Advice





Posts: 2427


Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
I would suggest a longer rod than a 7'6. Get a 8 or 8'6 for bucktails and plastics
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