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Obfuscate Musky
Posted 2/26/2008 11:33 AM (#303922)
Subject: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 654


Location: MPLS, MN
Lost a fish due to crimps last year, is there a company that makes a quality 7 strand leader that doesn't rely on crimps?
rpike
Posted 2/26/2008 12:10 PM (#303932 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: RE: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 291


Location: Minneapolis
I tie my own using 90# Tyger Braid instead of 7-strand. It's more flexible and easy to tie. I get it from Thorne Bros. I use a World's Fair knot to tie it. No crimps to fail. I think Tyger Braid is easier to work with than comparable-test fluorocarbon, and teeth can't cut it.
55esox
Posted 2/26/2008 12:42 PM (#303938 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 97


I started making my own and double crimp them. It might be overkill, but i will say there is no wail that leader will fail due to the crimp.

I was leary about them myself, but after doing them myself, I will not buy a leader ever again.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 2/26/2008 1:07 PM (#303944 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: RE: Best 7 strand leader without crimps





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
TYGER WIRE 4-6 twists and fuse with a match, then I will use shrink wrap tube over the twist and U will not pull it open. TYGER WIRE Is very flexable, I use 30,50,70, 90 and 120lb test. They also have color wire in 50lb and under.
muskie! nut
Posted 2/26/2008 4:35 PM (#303987 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain
The last two years I have been using GS Specialties 21 and 17 strand stainless steel leaders. Yes they are crimped but the guy uses the same crimping tool they use for airplane cable. These will not pull out. The leader also doesn't kink. I caught fish of 46, 45, 42, 38, & 34 inches two yrs ago and was still using it last year. Doug Johnson and Frank Walsh have caught over 50 muskies each (& bunch of pike as well) on one of these leaders. These are the top of the line. Availible only at Smokey's and Dorn's and D&S in Madison or the Rockford show this weekend.
vanertski
Posted 2/26/2008 5:28 PM (#303999 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 80


Location: Clintonville, Wi
instead of crimps try using a figure 8 knot. I have never had one fail in 3 years. The Salt water guys use them on sail fish. plus they are very simple to tie.
Whoolligan
Posted 2/26/2008 6:10 PM (#304012 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 457


I like tyger, too. Although, I don't twist and fuse, I just tie a palomar, or Berkley knot in the 120. That's all we use for bite tippet in the salt, nothing works better. I've used haywires, and surflon, American fishing wire, many others, but tyger is the way to go in my book.
I've started using it more and more for fishing jigs and creatures, because it moves nicely, unlike a solid leader.
Marc J
Posted 2/26/2008 9:10 PM (#304056 - in reply to #304012)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps





Posts: 313


Location: On your favorite spot
you don't have to crimp a 7strand. tie an overhand knot to form a small loop, hold the main leader wire tight, and tightly wrap the tag end around 6-7 times. practice 3 times and you'll have it, cheap, easy, DEPENDABLE.
guideman
Posted 2/27/2008 3:53 PM (#304210 - in reply to #304056)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 376


Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN
My 7 strand leaders are rapped, super glued and then they get shrink rapped. I haven't had a failure in 10 years.

I sell them on my website and I'll have them at the MN muskie Expo in Blaine next weekend.

They come coated or uncoated in 90, 150 and 200lb.

"Ace"
Obfuscate Musky
Posted 2/28/2008 9:07 AM (#304376 - in reply to #304210)
Subject: Re: Best 7 strand leader without crimps




Posts: 654


Location: MPLS, MN
guideman - 2/27/2008 3:53 PM

My 7 strand leaders are rapped, super glued and then they get shrink rapped. I haven't had a failure in 10 years.

I sell them on my website and I'll have them at the MN muskie Expo in Blaine next weekend.

They come coated or uncoated in 90, 150 and 200lb.

"Ace"


Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll see you at the Blaine show Ace to buy some of those leaders.
John
Posted 2/28/2008 9:24 AM (#304378 - in reply to #303922)
Subject: RE: Best 7 strand leader without crimps


I have been double crimping seven strand leaders for a very long time. I have never had a failure on one of my leaders. I did go out and buy a titanium leader just after they came out. I was able to make that crimp fail in a weekend. Crimps get a bad rap. If you know how to crimp, double crimping will be as reliable as any connection out there.

John
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