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Johnny_B
Posted 1/25/2008 11:49 PM (#296434)
Subject: Believer questions




Posts: 115


I have a few Believers that I have never really used. In Muskies on the Shield, Dick Pearson considers them one of the cresent wrench tools of musky fishing. I'm thinking that I need to start using Believers more often.

Do you use Believers? Are Believers one of your go to lures? What's your secret? How do you fish Believers?

Thanks,

John

smellslikebass
Posted 1/26/2008 12:37 AM (#296436 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions




Posts: 101


Location: mn
I troll them alot. great bait
JKahler
Posted 1/26/2008 1:33 AM (#296442 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions




Posts: 1287


Location: WI
I troll them along breaklines in the fall on the shallow setting. I caught 3 fish on the 10 inch model, 36, 40, and 50 inches. I'm going to try casting them more this summer, and also try using them as slow surface lures.

Edited by JKahler 1/26/2008 1:34 AM
Pete Stoltman
Posted 1/26/2008 9:01 AM (#296469 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions




Posts: 663


Very good versatile choice. I use them a fair amount and have done quite well with them.
jpine
Posted 1/26/2008 9:32 AM (#296474 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions




Posts: 90


Location: ne53
The believer is one of my "go to" trolling lures, and I find myself casting it alot also. I like the jointed but they say the straight model has a much wider wobble. The numbers these baits have produced over the years speak for themselves. It's not a real expensive lure either so do yourself a favor and add a few to your arsenal.
muskellunged
Posted 1/26/2008 9:37 AM (#296477 - in reply to #296474)
Subject: Re: Believer questions





Location: Illinois
I use the small squirrely believer casting with a pull/pause technique similar to a suick, besides methods previously mentioned. It is a versatile lure for sure that gets it's share of time on my line.
tuffy1
Posted 1/26/2008 3:55 PM (#296543 - in reply to #296477)
Subject: Re: Believer questions





Posts: 3240


Location: Racine, Wi
They rock as wash baits trolling as well. They do some amazing things in the wash, but you definitely have to watch your down rod placement so they don't kick out into the down rods. I don't cast them much, but they see alot of water time trolling.
seeking 54
Posted 1/26/2008 4:16 PM (#296547 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: RE: Believer questions




Posts: 67


This has worked for me, if you're fishing a 10 - 12 foot break, attach a 10" jointed on the shallow eye, let out 50' of line, and troll 3.5 - 4 mph.

s54
Willis
Posted 2/8/2008 2:24 PM (#299776 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: RE: Believer questions




Posts: 227


Location: New Brighton, MN
got a jointed black believer... troll it alot, cast it a little. Works great and super action.
Targa01
Posted 2/8/2008 2:44 PM (#299780 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
I've mostly trolled them and like Tuffy said they can go nuts on you once in a while but they seem to catch fish. I've played with them some casting and found they are nice for fishing slow over weeds and allowing the lure to just go into them some, then pause and it backs out without getting hung and keeping doing that. I also have the larger super believer and it has great action and the tail reel whips around but it seems to loose some action on the deeper eye. Might just need some tuning but they are great baits. I need to throw them more myself.
Fisher
Posted 2/8/2008 2:51 PM (#299781 - in reply to #299780)
Subject: Re: Believer questions





Posts: 425


Location: Roseau
Targa01, I think you really like to troll them - 3 fish day - biggest 44" a great trip!!
I cast them a fair amount and was a strong believer in the straight, but after my bro had 25+ follows and a 38.5" in one day it changed me a bit. My favorite is in the weeds, reel in till you feel weeds stop and it will back out, keep doing this. You can go through some really thick weeds and the strikes are just awesome, they are out to kill the lure!!
Targa01
Posted 2/8/2008 5:56 PM (#299806 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions





Posts: 742


Location: Grand Rapids MN
Ya I can't take credit for the weed trick. Really worked for you on that slow day for moving fish and I've used that tactic a couple of times since. So many hooks yet no weeds! Trolling, oh ya. Maybe I just like watching the line take off left and right after it bounces off bottom and the rod just goes nuts.

Come on heat wave! Melt that ice.......
Tackle Industries
Posted 2/8/2008 6:57 PM (#299815 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I troll with them and beat them into the rocks and sand. IMO no other lure lip can take the punishment. I have ground down a lot of them and they still keep fishing. Nice to have the two conection points too. Very good lures!
Johnny_B
Posted 2/8/2008 8:36 PM (#299823 - in reply to #299815)
Subject: Re: Believer questions




Posts: 115


Thanks for all the info. I'm going to the Milwaukee show tomorrow and will be looking to pick up a few of the super believers.

Thanks,

John
Beginner
Posted 2/9/2008 5:51 AM (#299849 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: RE: Believer questions


Just to share a thought or two on Believers, even though I am a still inexperienced amateur. These lures seem to be a good bait for the buck. They're affordable and seem to produce.

I use the 7" and 8", jointed and straight. The 7" is better for casting because it only has two treble hooks and doesn't foul as often on the cast as the 8".

For dark water, I like the fire perch and firetiger patterns. For clearer water, I like the natural perch and nine dollar bass finishes. (I haven't tried black sucker.) The largest muskie I've had on my line ate the fire perch in dark water on a weed line.

Of course the straight model runs deeper than the jointed.

I've taken muskie, pike, walleye and bass on the Believer.
MuskieE
Posted 2/9/2008 6:27 AM (#299851 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: RE: Believer questions





Posts: 2068


Location: Appleton,WI
When I troll I always have at least one believer out everytime!The produce and as others said have a nice side to side actionand even do things in the prowash you couldnt get a bait to do.I also would recommend a jerk bait out well trolling very underrated.
Perfect Drift
Posted 2/10/2008 9:39 AM (#299974 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions




Posts: 155


Don,t forget Swimwizz,s .They,ve got some good colors at the show that Drifter don,t have.
degrelle
Posted 2/10/2008 10:46 AM (#299984 - in reply to #296434)
Subject: Re: Believer questions


they dont have rattle,and btw drifter do custom paint for free..........
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