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Location: mpls | Hi Guys!
Thought I would share this with you guys.
I was just checking out some websites today and went to the Strike Pro website. I was a little suprised when I opened the "signature" line page up and saw an EXACT recreation of my Cisco color !!
I should have been suspicious when they bought some lures from me at Chicago!!
Flattery is great, but at least they could have come up with a different fin!! They even copied that I fade the top of the head from black to purple and the dark blue lateral line!!
The pic of my bait attached isn't that great, trust me- it's exactly the same!!
Big Companies Suck! Viva the basement!
Joe
Trueglide.com
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Uptown- Copying is the sincerest form of flattery. Your photo may be lower quality, i.e., not professional ad quality. But, I'd still say your paint job is a step above in artistic merit. That's what I really look for to differentiate one lure from another. A lot of times the basement guy's just do a better job on the paint. God Bless the basement lure makers/painters!
Have fun!
Al
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| That sucks Joe, but we will keep buying yours because they look better and work better.
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Location: mpls | Thanks Guys,
It's really is not that big of deal. I was just a little shocked when I saw the website. It's not something that you expect, from my basement to China- who would have thought?
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Location: Rhinelander. | If you saw my post on on people that copy production baits for their own use you'l know its cutthroat out there. People copy baits made by companies all the time. Its unfortunate. I guess it works the other way to. Its a hard world out there and after being in the tackle business I know its its a hard one. As said by others take it as a compliment and swear under your breath. |
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Location: Oregon | I don't blame you for being annoyed Joe but lets face it, there is only one "True-Trueglide".
Jed V.
Bikini Bait Co.
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| Crap that sucks man! But as Steve said your baits are far superior. Looks like a very poor imitation of your excellent work I would say. |
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| color copy is been around here for years. annoying yes it is. we have been painting for 2 decades and have seen copying for years. just remember yours is an orignal. oh ya screw chinas infiltration. what do they do for north america. |
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Location: Highland, IN | woodieb8 - 11/21/2007 5:47 AM
oh ya screw chinas infiltration. what do they do for north america.
Seems as tho lately they've been trying to give our kids and grandkids lead poisoning by adding it to their paints on toys |
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | "Seems as tho lately they've been trying to give our kids and grandkids lead poisoning by adding it to their paints on toys"
Yeah and I'm sure poor little Mattel couldnt possibly turn a profit manufacturing in the US, or at the very least having US personnel overseeing operations in China right? The Chinese are only doing what US corporate interests demand....producing items at the lowest possible price.
Joe,
I've got the utmost of respect for your lures and your artistic abilities, but personally I think the whole copying thing is going a bit overboard if we are now going to include "copying" of color patterns! So after the first frog color paint job was done no others should have ever painted a frog pattern or a perch pattern, bluegill pattern etc?
Man I'd hate to see what we'd be left with if no bait styles or color patterns had ever been "copied". Would be a pretty p**s poor selection on store shelves thats for sure! |
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| Hi Joe,
Those lures are from Strike Pro´s "Swedish Design Series", a Swedish company called CWC probably are the ones who decided to do that specific color, Strike Pro probably only manufacture the baits for them. Check out their web at: http://www.cwcab.com/strsignature.htm
cheers,
Mag
www.mag.nu
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Location: Mid Wales, UK | Take a look at the Jimmy Lindahl signature series colour. I have one of these baits and thought when I bought it that they are clearly copying your foil pike pattern (my favourite Trueglide pattern  )
By the way, just got myself 4 more Trueglides to add to the collection. Stunning lures Joe, keep up the good work!
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Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan | Joe,
I think all of us on here who are building baits for sale have had similar experiences. It does "suck", but it goes with the territory. Everybody is looking for the new, hot design or color and when something comes out that is good and works, it gets copied in some fashion or another. I have been building Musky baits for quite some time and my "Musky Rocket" design was inspired from a bait called a "Musky Special" built by the now defunct "Trinity Industries Inc," out of Detroit. I modified the design to fit my style. Well, that design has been copied by I think the last count was 14 manufacturers are basically make the same bait, ie; Wileys, Harvo lures, Terminators, , Bad Azz, Mordas Minnow, Lapper Lures, T.K.O., BK lures (les chubie), Drifter Tackle Stalkers, Chuck Smith, and on and on.
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| castmaster - 11/20/2007 1:29 PM
"Seems as tho lately they've been trying to give our kids and grandkids lead poisoning by adding it to their paints on toys"
Yeah and I'm sure poor little Mattel couldnt possibly turn a profit manufacturing in the US, or at the very least having US personnel overseeing operations in China right? The Chinese are only doing what US corporate interests demand....producing items at the lowest possible price.
Joe,
I've got the utmost of respect for your lures and your artistic abilities, but personally I think the whole copying thing is going a bit overboard if we are now going to include "copying" of color patterns! So after the first frog color paint job was done no others should have ever painted a frog pattern or a perch pattern, bluegill pattern etc?
Man I'd hate to see what we'd be left with if no bait styles or color patterns had ever been "copied". Would be a pretty p**s poor selection on store shelves thats for sure!
Very good points. It is tough to swallow when a design looks exactly like yours though. I respect both opinions. |
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| joe glide baits look better for sure but i will surely give a try at those from strike pro.btw they look very different to me,if i remove the fins....
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Location: Norway | I know Cato, the ugly mug in the photo  and he said that he choose/designed that color with cisco/whitefish in mind. We do have a cisco/whitefish (sik, Coregonus lavaretus) here in Norway.
http://biokonsult.no/Andre%20disseksjoner/01_Rund_sik.jpg
But whether Cato came up with the colors or where presented with a already done color, I wouldnt dare to speculate in...
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| yeh joe that sucks ! your not the only one they copied from, that whole series is your baitcoluors and cobbs and marks (smuttleydogs) |
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Location: Bloomington, Illinois | Hey Joe,
I remember those guys ......they depleted your inventory the first day...I hope to be there on Friday this year
matt
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Location: mpls | Hey guys,
I am not saying that I expect it to never happen, and I know that it is only a color scheme, but it was still unexpected. That is all I am saying. The guy who invented Firetiger probably hates all of us . LOL
The pattern on the Pike BTW matches my stencil perfectly. LOL. I blew up the pic and over laid it on my stencil and it is exact. I have to say, it is pretty cool that they can do that . In all honesty.
I also recognized Mark smith's (Smuttly Dog) patterns as well.
I am done with this post- Hope they catch a ton of fish on all of the patterns! It's only fishing after all!
Happy Thanksgiving to you all!
Joe
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| MUSKYBOY - 11/20/2007 8:09 PM
That sucks Joe, but we will keep buying yours because they look better and work better.
Steve work better?how do you know that?? |
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Location: Mid Wales, UK | ron f - 11/22/2007 11:15 AM
MUSKYBOY - 11/20/2007 8:09 PM
That sucks Joe, but we will keep buying yours because they look better and work better.
Steve
work better?how do you know that??
Can I butt in here
I have used five (I think) different models of Trueglide and all the different Strike Pro glidebaits. Joe's lures, in my opinion, have excellent and often unique actions. Different from many other glidebaits. The Strike Pros have pretty standard hypnotic side to side actions.
I buy Trueglides because they have excellent consistant actions and each one is a work of art. I buy Strike Pros because Trueglides ain't that easy to get hold of this side of the pond. Both are good lure manufacturers but if I had to choose which is best it wouldn't be a difficult decision |
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Location: Land of the Musky | No offense but I have seen this color pattern many times. Here is one form MRG out of IL and he has had it for years. I have also seen this general pattern on baits 40-50 years old. I am just curious if you are mad about the fins being added? That feature I have not seen on this pattern of bait but have seen fins on a lot of other baits that are new to 50+ years old. I have even seen real fish in this color pattern or close so I am sure they are very very angry as us all...
I think most here are right though in saying it is quality that matters. I am sure a collector or serious fisherman is going to buy your bait vs this other companies because your is better in their opinion. At the end of the day keep up the good work with high quality and you will have the satifaction of watching your competitors slowly disapear.
Good luck and nice looking baits on your website.
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Location: Bloomington, Illinois | Interesting.
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| They'll be in Chicago in January, take it up with them! |
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Location: The desert | The only real similarity I see is in the fins. As for pattern I dont think they are all that similar at all, perhaps it is due to different picture qualities. I wouldnt worry to much about it. When it comes down to it, how many different ways can you paint something that is supposed to resemble a fish? |
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