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| I was wondering what you guys do when you have people go fishing with or ask to go with if you tell them they pay half of the expensive or do you hope they give you some cash. Cause now it cost a lot for gas and maintenance of the boat and trucks. I know when I go with some one who has a boat I always offer and or give them money no matter what. |
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| The way I see it is you are going to go fishing any way. Roll the dice and hope they offer something. Otherwise who cares, just go fishing. |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | They should offer to pay something and bring a bag of sandwiches and some drinks.
Kevin
"I dream of meatball sandwiches. All you can eat. Two bucks." |
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Location: Otsego, MN | My friends and I all have boats, so when we choose to fish out of one or the other we usually split, the gas. |
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Location: SW Michigan | The way I look at it, money shouldn't be an issue and when it gets to the point it does, time to find another guest. I've got my own boat so when I go on someone elses I give them gas & expense money, no questions asked. Either they take it or I leave it in their vehicle, boat.......whatever. Never an issue. But quite often I'll invite someone along, but never expect money. But if someone keeps wanting to go & never have money & never have any gear but they'll have it next time........... That's a dead beat & money starts becoming an issue. I'm not a sponsor & they're too old to adopt & Uncle Sam won't let me write them off on my taxes so their free ride is over. Too bad some people are that way. 
Edited by toothn'nail 9/18/2007 11:17 AM
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| When I go fishing out of a friends boat I pay for the gas(boat and car) as well as lunch. I am using his rig and the least I can do is pay the cost of the days fishing. |
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Location: So. Illinois | Depends on the situation.
If it is their 1st time and I extend the invitation, I expect nothing in return. If offered, I kindly tell them the 1st trip is on me while letting them know that cost sharing is appreciated for future trips. I then tell them what my average day trip costs. If the person insists on chipping in, I invite them to pickup the tab for dinner on the way home (burger and beer) or cover snacks, food, drinks for the boat.
If I am taking someone out who has asked me to get them on the water (someone wanting to go with me when I have an empty seat), I gladely offer them the opportunity but am careful to explain what the costs to me are for a day on the lake (Truck gas, boat gas). I ask them to bring their own food for the day and maybe water and snacks to share. I have never had anyone offer less than half of my true costs. I live 2 hours away from the lake I fish. Gas for the truck and boat can run $70 - 90 for the day. To make things fair, I start out with full tanks at the beginning of the day and fill when done. If you discuss these items well before the trip, you should never have any problems.
If I am filling a seat on someones elses boat, I always ask what the persons costs are and offer to pay. For the friends I share a boat with often, we simply take turns using our equipment and covering costs. Funny that we are always very concious that the other is not paying too much out of pocket. Normally gets squared away at the end of the day with food / beer.
Edited by AFChief 9/18/2007 12:11 PM
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Location: Chicago | Life is too short. If you enjoy who you are fishing with, it does not matter. If you were going to go alone anyway, does it matter if you get a dime? But what do I know, my boat spends waay more time in the garage than the water. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | I have different opinions for who's in the boat. Friends that I take out and invite me out to fish in there boats I don't offer any cash, but will bring some refreshments of some kind. But if its someone new I'll offer to chip in for expenses. The problem I have is with the free loaders. These are the guy's who call you all the time and fail to open the wallet. Most of them think that you owe them something in life, there the same guy's that you drink with and never buy a round. The problem is that these group of guy's have done this all there life and will never change, saying anything to them has the wind tunnel effect through the head so save the words.
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| It kind of depends...
I think it's common courtesy to offer to help pay for gas or buy lunch or whatever, but at the same time, if the person with the boat was going fishing anyway it costs them what exactly to have another guest in the boat? I'm reminded of a day I went fishing with a friend of mine.... We stopped for gas on the way to the lake, I ran my credit card through the pump (mistake #1) and said "I got gas for the day" (mistake #2)
What does he do, he fills up the truck AND the boat, which were both empty. 57 gallons of gas...
Between the drive to the lake and using the trolling motor most of the day, I'd bet we didn't use 5 gallons of gas. I said "for the day" not "for your trip to Canada"...
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Location: Madison, WI | I have tried to be a good boat slut, being one the ultimate sluts out there... ...Beers, lunch, dinner, chipping in for gas, buying suckers. But sometimes it isn't enough to some people, I've spent $60 on suckers, bought breakfast and lunch, and chipped in for fuel costs and I still have a feeling that i owe the guy something. I think for the most part a good boat slut should offer to chip in for fuel, buy a sandwich and bring some beers. To be honest if the guy doesn't offer, I'd ask... It's nice to spread the cost of a trip out, there's no reason that one person should have to pay for the whole thing. |
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Location: So. Illinois | Addict, thats got to hurt. You got stuck hard. I am all for squaring up at the end of the day. Its pretty easy to estimate gas based on distance traveled and time spent on the water. Another option is to let your partner top off in the morning, you offer to top off at the end of the day, that way you are only replacing gas that was used. |
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Location: oswego, il | Pretty much 50/50 here too. Most of the people I fish with pay 50% of the motel and gas, some even get the meals too. I have been shorted before, not on purpose but a good frienship is not worth losing over 20-50 bucks anyway. |
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Location: Aitkin, Blaine, Minnesota | I have a lot of boat guests. I figure they add to my experience as it is darn near impossible to pattern fish effectively alone. I am always wondering I wonder is I should try -----? I make them switch it up.
If they pay me a little great. If not fine too.
I do hate garbage in my boat! If your sloppy not cool and I will let know.
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| Friends and family get a free ride with me.
If you aren't friends or family, you don't get in.  |
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Location: The desert | I always try to help people out with gas or something, or at least offer to buy drinks for the day or a lunch, but as a college kid it gets tough sometimes....I like to help out with paying for stuff, but sometimes all I can afford is coffee in the morning. |
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| As a student, a little goes a long way. A lot of my buddies don't have boats, but still love to get out as much as I do and often ask, "Hey, let's hit the water this weekend." In that case, I'll usually ask if they can chip in whatever they can afford. Even $20 helps toward a tank of gas. If I was planning on going out by myself one weekend and someone wants to jump in the boat I usually won't ask for $$$ since I was planning on going anyway. Most of my spending money is saved for gas and boat maintenance. Would rather save the $40 for gas than blacking out at the bars on campus...
Typically, it's situational. When I fished local bass club tournaments non-boaters chipped in at least $20 as a rule of thumb, either the boater refused it, accepted, or on rare occasions asked for more (usually running the Ohio River down to the Cumberland in southern IL). |
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| If I'm going to be out on the water already and someone jumps in it doesn't matter to me, it is a nice gesture just to offer up something. Whenever someone has given me money for burning my gas I'll usually turn around and use that cash to buy us both lunch or something, I'm just that way.
....however...the thing that really chaps my arse is taking someone out who never even offers and then turns around and insists on people paying them when someone jumps in their boat. Hey, if you are going to insist on someone paying you, then when you are a boat slut you should at least have the common courtesy to offer. To me that is called being a hypocrite. |
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Location: The desert | esox50 - 9/18/2007 10:25 PM
Most of my spending money is saved for gas and boat maintenance. Would rather save the $40 for gas than blacking out at the bars on campus...
Good plan....I just dont spend $$ at the bars. |
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| Mike,
You sound like how the females operate here at Illinois! Don't go out with a dollar to their names and come home shwasted (and if they're lucky with a little extra money in their pockets/other clothing items)!!! |
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Location: The desert | LOL! I wish....I usually go downtown with enough to keep me going all night....eventually it ends my night as well. |
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Location: SW Michigan | Candidate for worst guest ever. A guy I work with is always bugging me to go. He's begging me to hit Lake Michigan for salmon so I agree, even though it's trip #4 for him without seeing any gas money. I have to go out of my way to pick him up (he lost his drivers license DUI). He tells me then he's short on money (again) when I'm in his driveway. It's too late to turn back now, so we go anyway. We're out on the big lake with 6 lines out & 6 fish in the cooler on ice when we see a boat approaching, the guy gives me a funny look & asks, "That's not the DNR is it"? I reply, "DUNNO, why?" Him, "I don't have my all species license (trout & salmon stamp). It turned out it wasn't DNR but it ruined an otherwise great trip. And to this day he still bugs me, "when we going fishing again?" Unbelievable! |
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| As a guest. It is my duty to pay my share. I look at it this way. what would the cost be to spend a day fishing on my own. boat rental, gas for the car. wear and tear on equimpment. If as a guest all i am responsible for is getting to the person's place on time. It means he has done all the other work preparing for the trip.
It doesn't seem right not to pay my way.
Money is such a drag on everything why screw up future chances at fishing over $50-$75 dollars.
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Location: Browerville, Minnesota | I have never asked for anyone to pay for anything. Just not in my nature, I guess. Most of the guys that I fish with have their own boats, so when we fish out of my boat, I take care of the stuff, and they do the same when we fish out of their boats. If I am going out and someone wants to tag along, I am usually more than happy to have them in the boat. Since I was going anyways, nothing hurt. If they want to throw some coinage at me, that is very nice as well, but not something I demand or expect. |
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| I figure that Im gonna be out fishing anyway, so I dont ask for anything. If that person chooses to pitch in for fuel, food, etc..Then thats great.. |
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | I have yet to ask for or accept $$ on any day trip, All I ask is that you bring your own food & Drink but should you forget I usually have that covered as well.
NOTE: Smokes on the Boat are $10.00 each if you run out 
However, on a week long trip I would fully expect a 50/50 split for gas costs and that is usually agreed on when the plans are made
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| How much gas are you guys running through in an average day or evening of fishing? Couple gallons maybe? What's that? $5-10? Doesn't seem like a big enough of a deal to get bent out of shape over in most circumstances.
I think that Miss Manners would say that proper etiquette is that when you "invite" a guest along with you, you shouldn't expect the guest to pay. Kind of like inviting another couple over for dinner, would you expect them to pay 1/2 the cost of meal preparation?
On the other hand, Miss Manners would also say that if you are a guest "inviting" yourself along with another using their boat, you should expect and offer to help cover the costs.
Unless in obvious cases where someone is a repeated freeloader, and you otherwise wouldn't be fishing, and you are burning $20+ of gas in an outing, as well as supplying the beer and food, etc., and you really don't enjoy the "guest's" company, I don't think this is an issue worthy of the hassle and hard feelings. |
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| amen.
shut up and fish.
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Location: Stevens Point, WI | I burn probably $20 or close to of gas just getting to the lake. I don't think it's so much the gas in the boat guest, it's the gas getting to the lake and back is where the help from your partner is nice. I use so little gas with my Optimax, that I'm not real worried about putting gas in there every time, it's the quarter tank or so of gas I go through getting to and from the lake.
I think whether or not it's the right thing to do or not, the respectful and courtesy thing to do is at least offer. I may or may not accept, but I feel much more appreciated they at least offered and the next time the guy asks or I am looking for a partner, I won't have a problem saying yes.
Edited by Merckid 9/19/2007 1:01 PM
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