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| i agree hulbert you guys have pressure. but you also stock the ponds full like aquariums. When BIG fish are moving here we get them from all over, MN, WI, IA, ND,SD, MI, IN, IL. When fish are moving in IN you get more locals out. With over 15,000 lakes here and under 100 managed for muskies and at least 20 times the amount of anglers coming to MN than any other state to fish for the beast, the pressure does build. Tourny type atmosphere on any given evening during the MIDWEEK.
I do not post Pics so I am not at liberty to cut those who do.
It does not make any sense to argue background vs. no background. I like to see big fish whether their is scenery behind it or not.
I fish the Metro area a ton and if I did post pics you would not get the background.
If that is selfish, OH WELL.
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| What I think is fascinating is the vast difference in opinion on this topic, and how closely it relates to where people fish.
Hulbert: Fishes in area with so many muskies and so many people fishing for them that 10 more boats or 100 more boats aren't going to make a difference. 5 -7 fish per acre, launches full by 5:00 am, boat on top of boat... Pretty much "post the picture, whoever shows up will be boat #20 through the spot anyway"
Worrall: Fishes in an area where there are more lakes with muskies than there are musky fishermen to fish them. "post the picture, chances are anybody who sees it on line wouldn't be able to find the lake in the first place. Even if they found the lake AND the spot, there'd be two boats out there instead of one, so what??"
Then there's the MN guys, who over the last few years have seen their home waters go from a boat here and there to waiting in line for a chance to fish a spot. "don;t post the picture, it's becoming a zoo out here. We need LESS people fishing, NOT more. I live here and I'm a minority -- all the boats from IL, WI, IN? GO HOME ALREADY!"
The guys regularly fishing 200 - 500 acre lakes? They've got a good thing going -- quiet, relatively low pressure, good fish to be had. 10 more boats is a crowd. They'd be stupid not to try to keep their little honey holes a secret.
It all comes down to three types of fisheries:
1. It's already a zoo, what's the difference?
2. It's becoming a zoo, and we don't like it.
3. It's great and we want to keep it that way.
The bottom line is that if you talk about it on the internet, people are going to read it. You don't know who they are, where they are, or what they will do with the information you share.
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Location: Brookfield, WI | Play golf and don't worry about pictures. HaHaHaHa.
Kevin
Homer: Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
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| It's a matter of who you trust and who you don't. If you post a pic with notable landmarks and in the following days that area gets hammered, to me you've got no grounds to stand on when complaining about the increase in pressure.
I've seen two different types of pics posted with backgrounds blocked out. This is not only on this site, but others as well. In fact I would say there is a clearer distinction elsewhere on the internet than here. 1) By those who genuinely want to keep a spot or location secret 2) Those who do it just to spite others. The latter can usually be sniffed out by how defensive that person gets when there are guesses made as to where it was taken. I don't have a problem with either one, but those who seem to do it for spite are also those who have shown a history of having a need for self importance and are constantly looking to stroke their own ego. They are easily ignored.
I also don't post pics, or try not to unless it is warranted. Even then those pics won't show a distinct background in them. Alot of water, far off shoreline, release shot, etc. I've been followed as it is, by guides nonetheless. On the plus side there is a good chance that I am doing something so off the wall that it's quite entertaining seeing the looks of others when they are spying on me.
This time of year you won't see the giant increase in pressure as you would have just a few short weeks ago. Now that tourist season is over and kids are back in school the guys you'll see out are more and more of those intelligent muskie fishermen that MRoberts talked about. Those who do their homework instead of the weekend warriors that are looking for a shortcut. I see this on my home water. The Monday before Labor Day the launches were still packed. Last week, even with that real warm weather the numbers dwindled considerably. This week has been great.
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Location: Sherry, WI | i know it's cold in central wisconsin, but it ain't winter yet! or is it?
if i share information that results in increased pressure on a spot, and i can't fish the spot when i want, my bad on ME. does the breadth of the realm of information distribution affect the amount of "new" pressure on a spot? yes and no, likely that is situation dependant.
i have a small group of friends that i share everything with, and i get same in return. we understand that what we share between us is for us, not an internet board. there definitely are only so many cookies in the jar, and if we have something figured out so we can have a few more cookies, great. we also enjoy the gamesmanship amongst ourselves of figuring out where a fish was captured based on the picture background. it's easy to leave clues in the background. it's also easy to shoot so clues are not visible, and we are so good we do this without even swinging the boat around!.
what i cannot control is what other anglers do with their information. if they want to share/post, that's ok. if not, that's ok, too.
i can't get bent about what other people post. i only have so much energy any given day, and i need to expend it on what i can control instead of what i can't.
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| For me and I have posted pics with and without background blurred its the "it's great not a lot of pressure and don't want the cat out of the bag just yet." A lake where there is a lot of fishing pressure but not for muskies is rare. Have you ever had someone come up to you and ask if that big fish you just released was a walleye or pike on more than one occasion? I get it all the time - and granted jonnysled a 41-45" fish isn't big for you, but it is for me, so don't laugh or make fun of guys who block out backgrounds to save a lake from more pollution or/and more pressure. We all pay the same price for the right to fish these fish, no one is in the right or wrong.
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It is pretty simple Mike;
People fish areas of the lake that hold fish. A 2500 acre lake doesn't mean it has 2500 acres of muskie holding structure.
When 1500 acres of it are open water, what does that leave you with?
When the fish are up shallow and in the rushes on Plant, that's where everyone is going to fish. Haven't seen 2500 acres of shallow bullrushes on Plant.
On the other hand, when the open-water bite is on, and you have 15 boats trolling around each-other in circles, even though it's a 2500 acre lake you're still concentrating pressure on a small part of it.
To say MN doesn't have a fraction of the pressure other waters do is nonsense.
We are getting pressure from guys that know how to fish, and are willing to travel to do it. One of these guys takes more of your chances at catching a fish away than 10 guys just our frothing the water for something to do.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Here's my latest picture, a 56" monster from Lake Wheresdafish:
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| I recognize that spot! I'm not going to say exactly where it is, but it's pretty small, and it's kind of in the middle of nowhere on the South end of the lake! If you blink you'll miss it! |
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| about all that's worth saying about this one has been said.
thanks to all who chimed in.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | That, lambeau, is the understatement of the week! |
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