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Message Subject: Abandonment of Bucktails
Billy-Bob
Posted 9/17/2007 4:08 PM (#275339)
Subject: Abandonment of Bucktails


Is there some point at which you stop throwing bucktails in the fall b/c they move too fast for cold, lethargic fish?
IAJustin
Posted 9/17/2007 4:35 PM (#275343 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails




Posts: 2067


Yes - when the water is frozen
Dewman
Posted 9/17/2007 4:37 PM (#275345 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails




Location: Milwaukee
Nope!

I do run them slower, but I have caught fish right into November on bucktails.
Steve Van Lieshout
Posted 9/17/2007 9:25 PM (#275396 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails




Posts: 1916


Location: Greenfield, WI
I don't throw any bucktails in December through April, pretty much every year in WI!
mikie
Posted 9/18/2007 7:03 AM (#275436 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails





Location: Athens, Ohio
Go with the DC-10's, they move slow enough to catch fish in colder water. m
Muskie Pat
Posted 9/18/2007 6:35 PM (#275555 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails





Posts: 284


Location: Fishing the weeds
When they bounce off the ice. Pat
DH Buc
Posted 9/18/2007 8:32 PM (#275592 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails


I give up throwing Bucktails for lent. Seriously, throw them into Nov., just slow them down
Mikes Extreme
Posted 9/19/2007 6:19 PM (#275732 - in reply to #275592)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Never stop tossing tails. Just go to slow rolling big blades. I do go from bucktails to spinnerbaits when it gets into the 50's.
bn
Posted 9/19/2007 6:21 PM (#275734 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails


I don't understand the theory behind so many thinking baits have to be moving slow in the fall? fish will chase fast moving baits with water temps down into the 30's.
As always, let the fish tell you what they want and how fast they want it...not someone on an internet message board.
my 2 cents.
AWH
Posted 9/19/2007 6:38 PM (#275736 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails





Posts: 1243


Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
I'm with bn...trolling at 4+ mph works right up until ice up. So there's no reason to think that casting bucktails is too fast of a presentation. If they want it, they'll chase it down.

Aaron

Edited by AWH 9/19/2007 6:39 PM
firstsixfeet
Posted 9/20/2007 9:49 AM (#275847 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails




Posts: 2361


I think the effectiveness of bucktails drops in lower water temps, and becomes dependent on fish activity level. as do the search type topwater baits. It's not that they won't work, it is more that they are not always best choice.
sworrall
Posted 9/20/2007 9:53 AM (#275848 - in reply to #275339)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
'As always, let the fish tell you what they want and how fast they want it...not someone on an internet message board.'

So everyone should ignore this advice as well?
firstsixfeet
Posted 9/20/2007 9:55 AM (#275849 - in reply to #275848)
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Posts: 2361


sworrall - 9/20/2007 9:53 AM

'As always, let the fish tell you what they want and how fast they want it...not someone on an internet message board.'

So everyone should ignore this advice as well?


Well, all except MY post...
esoxaddict
Posted 9/20/2007 10:01 AM (#275854 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails





Posts: 8831


Cold water = slower metabolism = fish feed less often + move more slowly

Where are the big fish late in the fall? Where are they feeding? What are they feeding on?

What does all of that tell you?
muskyboy
Posted 9/20/2007 10:34 AM (#275859 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: Re: Abandonment of Bucktails


Slow them down and they catch fish year round, and if that doesn't work speed them up

Just like topwater use them ice out until ice up
Moron Patrol
Posted 9/20/2007 10:43 AM (#275862 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails


If you bring 3 lakewoods, I'm guessing you have to use at least a whole bunch everyday. Topwaters, bucktails, whatever!

bn
Posted 9/20/2007 10:56 AM (#275864 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails


what I meant was..
fish can and do move on fast moving baits in the fall...and slow moving baits in the fall...watch a sucker swimming around...do the muskies usually eat them when they are moving slow or trying to get away? saying that they only will eat slow moving baits / bucktails whatever in the fall is false...
take it or leave it...makes no difference to me!
as you say SWorrall...there are no rules...

tuffy1
Posted 9/20/2007 11:46 AM (#275870 - in reply to #275864)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails





Posts: 3242


Location: Racine, Wi
I'm thinking that depending on the depth of the fish, that would determine if I can fish hair or not. If I'm targeting fish that are on deeper breaks, realating to deeper water, it's tough to get hair down that deep (not including spinnerbaits). If the fish are shallower, throw hair. They'll eat it for sure.
musky 23
Posted 9/20/2007 11:53 AM (#275872 - in reply to #275339)
Subject: RE: Abandonment of Bucktails


I think tuffy 1 is right. The reason you have to slow down with tails in the colder weather is to get your bait down to the area of the water column that the fish are using. They aren't as high in the water column in cold water and are less willing to rise to chase.
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