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| Andy from Shak Attack stands behind his baits. Case in point: He recently subbed out some baits to China (Formula X line) and they were crap. He killed it within months and has gone back to hand pours which are much more durable and realistically colored. He is all about quality over mass production. his baits rock, and he genuinely cares about the quality, please support him. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I would agree with the above statements about Andy from Shack Attack...great guy who really wants to put out nothing but the best to us musky nuts...I'm hoping his new thru wire construction he has been working on will be "the real deal" and can't wait to get them WET!
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Location: minocqua, wi. | just got back from the muskyshop and noticed that the suzysuckers have moved from their original location in the store and are now sit next to the bulldawgs on the wall. with the new big curly sues and the many colors of the regular paddle tails and then the replacements tails there i think the tide is already changing toward the better product. while i was there a customer was pondering both ... he asked for my help and walked out with curly sues ... it's easy to show the difference especially now. doesn't matter where something is produced if a manufacturer's efforts respect the customer needs and it seems that shack attack is doing plenty of that ... cool that they provide the replacement tails ... that alone speaks reams to their understanding of what customers want. |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | MSKY HNR - 8/28/2007 4:19 PM
I would agree with the above statements about Andy from Shack Attack...great guy who really wants to put out nothing but the best to us musky nuts...I'm hoping his new thru wire construction he has been working on will be "the real deal" and can't wait to get them WET!
Got an email from Andy the other day. In a nut shell, it was about his new thru wire construction and the tests he has been running on it. Definitely the real deal!
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Location: big cove tannery pa | I have not had any problems with my bulldawgs faling apart,just a few rips and tears from muskie strikes.
Aso where would i be able too pick up a couple curly sues? There not on the Shack Attack site. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | you can get them at most of the major retailers including rollie and helen's, thorne bros., and pastika's, but for sure at www.muskytackleonline.com ... i was just over there shopping myself before stopping back in here ... |
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Location: New London, Wisconsin | This is strictly my opinion but based on the recent developments with Musky Innovations (bad leaders or bad batch or snaps and now there recent problems with bulldawgs) have me steering clear of their products in the stores. They took the market by storm with the "dawgs" but it now seems that their growth and popularity have pushed them into the "greedy" catagory, namely, cheaper components + steady or higher prices = larger profits. It's too bad and not unique to MI but it is the reason I have been supporting the "little guys or basement bait makers" a lot more lately. I am getting a much higher quality bait, better price and the means to have the bait customized. Again this is just my opinion and view.
Good luck to all heading out over the long weekend!
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Location: Contrarian Island | one of a few things will hopefully happen here...Musky fishermen will stop buying cheap products and the companies making them will take notice and change...or we will still keep buying crap and they will still keep making crap....or we will look for alternatives (Curly Sues) and will buy those and hopefully Andy never gets too big his products get made over seas with the quality going down like it has for some others... |
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Location: Belleville, WI | I can't find the Curly Sues at muskytackleonline . . . these ARE different baits than the Suzy Suckers, right? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | drop Aaron an email at muskytackleonline and he'll hook you up when they come in...they are different than suzy suckers...suzy suckers have the paddle tail, curly sues have a tail like dawgs.... |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Since they support us all here at MuskieFIRST, I'd VERY STRONGLY suggest you call or email Smokey's Musky Shop. They have been a loyal MuskieFIRST partner for a couple years, and have donated a large amount of gear towards our contests and fund raisers. John will take very good care of you. If they don't have an item, they will get it for you.
http://www.smokeysmuskieshop.com/
That said, Musky Innovations is a good company and the owners are good people. this is an unfortunate spped bump for them; they will make this issue right. |
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| i just talked to Smokey's.
Smokey's has Shack Attack products on order (including Curly Sue's) and they are expected in the shop/online by next week.
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Location: Southeast Wisconsin | John is an awesome guy!! If your in the milwaukee area check out Cutting Edge Outdoors on AM1250 saturday mornings from 6-8am.
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| What did Shark Attack do about all the form x baits sold at the shows. Did they back them up? |
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| Shack Attack is backing them up, although it's an entirely different issue and easily prevented by storing them separate from other plastics.
i stopped at the Sportsman this weekend and talked to the store owner about that very thing.
Shack Attack took back all the formula-x baits from the shelves, and has taken them back from customers who bring them in as well.
to contact them directly:
http://www.shackattacklures.com/
[email protected]
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Location: minocqua, wi. | if a guy does business poorly (which it seems the makers of the bulldawgs are caught in right now) regardless of where he does the business, the rest of the people who are doing it the right way shouldn't fall victim to the same generalization and get sensationalized through the anti-china sale it sounds like smokey's is having.
there are a lot of engineers from penn and abu who work hard, spend lots of travel time (i've met many of them myself on trips over there) and investment over in china overseeing production and quality and also doing things there, but the right way ... along with about a zillion others that supply products and stand behind problems that might occur ... touching many products we all use and even more that are near and dear to you. those businesses investing in quality, taking up the challenge when things get tough shouldn't fall into the same [generalizations].
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Preaching to the choir here, Sled, but as I said; to each his own.
Outsourcing can hurt badly if one doesn't keep quality as the number one issue with the builder of whatever was outsourced, matters not where they are built. Ask the former OMC about that...US manufacturers are perfectly capable of building problem products too.
That being said, I don't care where something is built. I care about the quality of the item, and I do have a good grasp of what international markets mean to the overall health of our economy with products flowing both ways. the trade deficit is a little disturbing, but it is what it is, the US is one huge consuming behemoth.
Surprisingly, my Toyota Tundra is built in Texas with a majority, but not all, parts built in the US. I'd happily drive a totally Japanese built Toyota if the quality rivals what I have now, and I'm certain it does in the vehicles built there. |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | Business owners take risks every day, be it a mfg of baits, retail, construction folks, whatever. Risks turn out great, and turn out bad, it's the nature of doing business.
All businesess make mistakes. They live and they learn, or fail miserabaly.
Do not discount any bait because they had a bad run. It happens in all types of baits. M.I. and Shack Attack both put out quality, fish catching baits.
So, you bought a bad bait. You got a bad one from your favorite maker. It happens. Do not swear off of "Brand XYZ", because your next bait may be your favorite. |
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Location: Nowheresville, MN | Agreed with all problems already said. Nightmare, this thread is evidence that it's more than just a couple guys just got a "bad' bait.
The problem is there are so many already made we won't get any "new" versions for a while. Those dawgs with the two split rings, those were from the same batch that did not have the welded rear hook hanger and the rear hook could just fall off, I've seen it. That problem came about what, a year and a half ago? I bought one this year (unknowingly) of this version.
Shy away from the uptowns, they are definitely softer.
Edited by tfootstalker 8/29/2007 7:51 PM
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Location: nappanee IN | ye ole in webster has curly sues and regular suze coming out of their ears! the big ones too..check 'em out |
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