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| Even though the accepting of L&G was one of the key components to the success of C&R don't you think it's run it's course.? How about going back to weight. Certified portable scales are realily available now. How about just weighing the fish in the net? Better for the fish and angler. Seems like a simple solution to me. Harry Brown - 32.6 lbs in net. John Doe - 18.2 lbs in net. |
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Location: Minnetonka | ron f - 8/14/2007 6:07 PM
sometimes 15 sec is 2 much when the temperature is high.i measure only 50+ in the cradle please.less possible time out of the water period=better release%.i just hate to play whit life only for a pict............
Tournaments require you measure everything over 40, so it's good efficiency practice. How fast can you get the hooks out, dip the board, lay her down and snap the photo? Try it! Oh... and a friend said try holding your breath when you take her out. When you run out, she runs out. |
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Location: Minnetonka | Donnie3737 - 8/15/2007 7:26 AM
So, i think i'm gonna buy the Dunnwright...is this the best one you guys think??
The Dunnwright is light and just as "slick" as any other when you put muskie slime on it. It works well... but I'd recommend putting some duct tape around the edges so as not to deface the beast. |
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| to give an opinion on your original question ---Yes I think fish are commonly being stretched a few inches . very very common. MD |
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| Bump board is the only way to go on a larger fish.
I keep a log of all my fishing ang and everyone is withing 1/4 "
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| We were streching them back in 1949, why should things be any different now? |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | My vote goes to the Dunnwright Bump Board. I have a custom 80" floating stick (ya never know!). Easy to measure a fish out of the water-but you need to have two numbers- the head & tail position - subtract the smaller from the larger = fish length. Got a Dunnwright from Mr. Forcier two years ago (Petenwell Muskie Challenge). Now my custom stick is just a backup or for in water measurements.
The Dunwright works great- Just saw Lambeau's Dunnwright in the photo of his 53.8" fish on Vermillion.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/cnr_images.asp?view=detail&photoid=...
Lambeau: Is that a "Cheese Head" modification to the Dunnwright, i.e., the different colored stripes spaced out at the end? Seems like it would make measurements much faster & more accurate. Good idea!
Have fun!
Al
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Many fish are "overestimated", you only have to look at the MI lunge to see that.
Funny how many 48"ers and 50"er + there are, but 49"er-50"ers seem to be a real rarity!
An absolutely accurate measurement has no purpose but to compare your fish with other peoples, who may not be measuring that accurately anyway.
Now I've measured many, many fish on a bump board over the years, and now it just isn't important to me anymore.
I measure with a floating stick in the water,or not at all. I'm actually thinking about putting stickers on the sides of my boat, so I can just hold a fish up against them if I want an idea of how big she is.
I really doubt I'll ever beat my personal best, and now could care less if I know exactly whether a fish was 49" or 50" or 51", a big fish is a big fish, and is just as fun to catch and release no matter if you can tell your buddies exactly how big she was.
That being said, everyone is at a different place in what they like to do in regards to fish handling, and measuring quickly on a bump board is the most accurate way to know what your fish's length is.
JS
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Location: Minnetonka | Don't forget to dip it first!
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| ESOX Maniac - 8/18/2007 8:31 AM
My vote goes to the Dunnwright Bump Board. I have a custom 80" floating stick (ya never know! ). Easy to measure a fish out of the water-but you need to have two numbers- the head & tail position - subtract the smaller from the larger = fish length. Got a Dunnwright from Mr. Forcier two years ago (Petenwell Muskie Challenge ). Now my custom stick is just a backup or for in water measurements.
The Dunwright works great- Just saw Lambeau's Dunnwright in the photo of his 53.8" fish on Vermillion.
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/cnr_images.asp?view=detail&photoid=...
Lambeau: Is that a "Cheese Head" modification to the Dunnwright, i.e., the different colored stripes spaced out at the end? Seems like it would make measurements much faster & more accurate. Good idea!
Have fun!
Al
Al, that's a mod that Paul Hartman (and possibly others) does for his tournament. Makes it easier on them when they go to the photos to verify the length. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i do agree with the contest thing though and case in-point. last year there was the contest here ... i caught a couple nice fish over on mille lac that would have qualified for the contest, but i didn't measure them ... the reason was that i had a big face full of cowgirl and had a tough time cutting hooks etc... and really just wanted the pictures. i was in the boat with a business partner and had a couple other biz buds with steve jonesi ... one was a real mess and jonesi came over to help me and took the pic of the fish ... i would say one was 45 and the other a 46 but that was me guessing .... they very well could have been bigger ... who knows, but they were +/- a half inch of the estimate i would say ...
now, to those of you who took accurate measurements and entered the contest. would it have been fair if i had entered two "unmeasured" fish into the contest and have won? i decided not because i truly couldn't have said with confidence it was this or that ... so i didn't enter the fish.
for me, it's not a big deal .. wasn't a personal best and in the situation it was my call to make so i just got pictures of the one and put her back quick ... the other one went in without a picture or a measurement ... make sense?
but, if i'm entered into a contest against people you can be assured it will be an accurately measured fish using a bump board. i got my dunright for free ... whenever you leave out of mille lac ... keep your eyes on the ditch ... amazing what you might find. i've got minnow buckets, life-jackets, seat cushions and now a bump board from careless boaters ...
life according to sled ... i'm out |
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| I certainly would have encouraged you to enter those fish, Sled. Not every fish was measured on a bump board. Mine certainly weren't. The contest merely said a fish had to be 45 or greater to enter. That was to limit the number of entries, I suspect. It wasn't like a biggest fish wins type contest, or total inches contest. As it was, there were something like 376 entries.
I won a club outing where my fish were measured on my stick, and witnessed the same. Other fish were measured on tapes, and maybe bumpboards. No real matter to me. No real big dollars involved. Mostly bragging rights. And I got to buy for everyone at Hooters afterward! |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | if i won with one 45-47 without a measurement and a guy with a bonafide fish qualifying didn't win i just plain don't think it would be fair. in the case of the replica contest which was what i opted out of the gain was worth 6 or 700 bucks which is enough coin to make the decision easy enough for me ...
if i was smart enough to post a picture i would, but i think it's too big and i don't know how to donwsize ... anyway, you'd get the picture. there are some bonafide numbers on some great fish posted year after year. i stopped posting fish for 2 reasons ... 1 because why jump into the ring when so many are embellished beyond even logical numbers and 2 because i can't catch a fish to save my life LOL ... i think you'd have to actually be able to have time to fish to do that ...
and maybe since there were 376 entries, i made the odds better for the more accurately measured fish. in all contests we hope everyone is honest with their entry. i just can't imagine me being able to use the words "honest" with an estimated measurement ... that's all, and that was the point earlier in the thread that i was trying to address.
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