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| Does Cedar and Cliff get very much fishing pressure? |
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Location: East Troy, WI | i fished cedar in 2005... i think i saw 3 muskie boats the whole week of July 23-30th... |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | I think there are 5 resorts on Cedar and it has a 54" size limit and more muskie anglers are venturing there.
Not too sure about Cliff. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | I have heard opposite on this site and others, but i have spent many hours on Cliff and can barely remember seeing anyone ever fishing Muskies. Cliff is a frustrating lake at times for other reasons, pressure has never been a factor.
Cedar gets a lot more pressure I am sure.
If you are 100% Muskies I would select Cliff(extremely tough walleye lake), if you fish for other species (mainly walleye) I would go Cedar... |
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Location: vermilion bay,ontario | your absolutly right,cliff gets very little pressure,mainly most guys don,t like fishing the gin clear water,i have had very good success though and love the fact i know someone else hasn,t pounded the area before me.lots of follow ups and there are some good fish there,as there is a great smallmouth bass pop.to.cedar on the other hand is quite busy all summer,really have to pound the water there,but the muskies are there and you have a good chance of hooking up with a 50" plus fish there,water is somewhat clear and produces fantastic weed beds and lots of them.fishing early and late is usually the best practice there as you can night fish on either lake,just bring the bug dope,they get real bad at times,especially with some lights on in the boat. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | fish guide, sent you a PM |
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| Cedar Lake is getting more muskie fishing pressure each year. Even Andy Myers Lodge on Eagle lake will guide customers on Cedar. Even with the increase, Cedar doesn't get the pressure other lakes do. There are some popular spots that seem to be more pressure than others. Of course, I really don't mind fishing an area after another boat has fished it. Pressure doesn't bother me much (as long as others are just not rude).
I thnk of Cedar as being a lake with little pressure offering a chance for a large muskie...one around 60" or larger.
I've only fished Cliff a couple of days. From what I saw, it has little pressure....very little. I guess it's because it is so clear. It does have muskies and I probably should try it again.
Cedar has 5 resorts and Cliff has 3 or 4 resorts.
I've got two trips planned for Cedar. One week beginning Aug 4th and another week beginning Sept 22nd.
Contact me for additional information. |
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Location: vermilion bay,ontario | muskie bob,slight correction on your comment,there hasn,t been a andy myers guide on cedar for a couple years now,and the only time they would go there is if a guest asked to go.i personely feel cedar has slowed up a lot in the last few years,either due to more pressure or some of the whitefish fishing that goes on there in the fall,i think the nets are taking there toll,unfortunatly. |
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| I fished Cedar each of the past 2 years. Since Cedar is shallower and more fertile than Cliff, it has a better walleye population than Cliff, and therefore more boat overall boat traffic. So there's a fair number of boats on Cedar, but I think the majority of people are still fishing for something other than musky (walleye, smallmouth, perch etc). I have taken a tour of all 3 resorts on Cliff, but have never fished it. Really looks like a beautiful lake, though, with extremely limited boat traffic from what I saw (Probably because walleyes don't thrive in trout water). I have 2 weeks booked on Cedar this year, and plan to spend a few days fishing on Cliff.
Cedar results: The first year we caught it during turnover and so didn't really get a chance to see what it has to offer. Last year, fished it with a buddy of mine from work who's more of a walleye guy, so we fished walleyes/bass during the day and muskies in the evening. Probably only spent a total of 18 to 20 hours musky fishing for the entire trip. (Mostly during the evening / dusk) Had action from 29 muskies, caught 2 and lost 3. So it has some potential. Will be fishing it with my dad this summer and we will concentrated more on muskies.
It definitely has some potential from what I saw.
Hope that helps,
"Jackpot" John Schroeder |
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| fishguide, sounds you know a lot about Andy Myers Lodge. I merely based my comments on what I've been seeing on Cedar, as well as, others telling me their guides were bringing guests there when Eagle was slow. I guess I mis-understood the Andy Myers Lodge guide I talked to a couple of years ago, as well as , seeing a couple of their boats fishing there. Now, that I think about it, I didn't see one of their boats last year, but that was in September.
So, why do you think fishing pressure has increased on Cedar? Hum....perhaps others have
experienced some good muskie fishing...
Although the fishing pressure has increase the last few years, there probably is a reason for it. Perhaps, some feel the fishing has improved. Of course, I've never considered Cedar to be a "numbers" lake. And, I continue to hear more stories of large muskies. Like most stories, most of them where estimates from follows or lost fish. The largest one I've heard of was 57" caught two years ago in September. I talked to the guy that caught the fish. He had pictures, but not on him at the time.
As to the pressure, I can't imagine it coming close to what Eagle Lake gets. At least, that's what I've seen when I fished Eagle. Hey, that doesn't discourage me, as I'm headed to Eagle for a week in September before going to Cedar.
Since you live in Vermilion Bay, I'm sure you keep up on what's happening to the lakes in the area. Hopefully, you voice your concern about the whitefish fishing and their nets taking toll on muskie fishing. Perhaps you can let others know where they can find out more about these nets and where they can voice their concern. Sounds like muskie fishermen should be concerned about what's happening. I'm glad to hear you are concerned and willing to let others know....just who???? Looking for you to post a new topic where others can join in to help protect muskie fishery in Ontario.....way to go...thanks.... |
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Location: vermilion bay,ontario | hi bob,i fished on cedar 2 years ago,but don,t have the andy myers name on my boat,fished the whole day and just before i was going to load up we hooked a 48 ",nice way to end the day.getting back to the netting,some fisherman take whitefish during the summer where there nets are 60' deep,this is the time that most game fish will not be roaming that deep,but a guy has to be concerned when they start netting shallow in the fall,i think cedar is the only place that i know of that they do that,even on eagle,there is no whitefishing being done on the north part of the lake in the fall that i have seen.if i had to fish cedar all the time i would be a bit concerned,as there used to much better action there years ago,i,am not saying the fishing is no good there,because it is a great fisherie,it has just slowed up on the action.two of my buddies own a cabin at the west end and used to go to cedar point for 17 years before they bought the cabin,and they are muskie nuts,they are also seeinf the action drop down,for whatever reason,could also be the smallmouth bass population in the lake,they can do a lot of damage to the walleye,pike and muskie.they keep increasing ,as nobody wants to eat them.so could be a number of factors.i,am not a biologist,and don,t want to put my foot in my mouth,if you know what i mean.cedar has the potential for trophy fish in each species,as i have caught them all there,and am sure i will again.but the thought of any sized fish especially a trophy getting wasted in a net turns my stomach.i think the camp owners know whats happening and they need to address the problem and not hope it goes away.i better get of this subject before i get myself in trouble.hope you guys have a great summer fishing,i know i will. |
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Location: Omaha, Nebraska | aren't cliff and cedar connected? so you can just boat over to the other lake if the fishing is slow one day on either of the lakes? Also what are your thoughts on perrrault lake?
Edited by DEMolishedyou 2/22/2007 8:12 PM
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| Cliff flows into Cedar, but it is not possible to boat from one into the other. You would have to take your boat out on a trailer and launch on the other side. |
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| Perrault lake is connected to Cedar lake. When going through the narrows connecting the lakes, you will come to an old bridge site. Be especially careful boating through the bridge area....shallow with rocks...probably a couple of small jugs to help mark the rocks...
Have't spent much time on Perrault lake, but did see a couple of muskies. From what I've heard Cedar is better for muskies. However, I've heard of a few nice muskies around 50" caught on Perrault.
Like jackpotjohhy48 said, you'll have to drive and launch your boat to fish Cliff Lake. There's a free launch along the highway, but it is fairly shallow and you may have to use trolling motor to boat to deeper water close by. However, there should be a hole deep enough to use outboard to load onto trailer. |
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| I always thought Cliff was a beautiful lake as I passed by on my way north. How is the trophy potential on that lake? I've seen some real big fish pics from Cedar Lake but haven't seen any fish pictures from Cliff. Can one have a good expectation of locating a upper 40 to 50" class fish or do they run smaller on average like Canyon or Indian Lake? Thats not to say big fish aren't there and catchable in those mentioned fisheries... just more of a "numbers lake" overall. |
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| I've fished Cliff for the past several years. It has a decent muskie population, but it can be a humbling lake. It doesn't get a ton of pressure, but it does get some. I don't know of anyone that's caught a 50 incher out of Cliff since I've been going. Seen more 50's years ago out there but the last few years they are tough to even see. Caught some muskies and pike with red spot so that may have something to do with it. Cedar on the other hand has been getting pounded the last few years when I've been there. I've heard of some pigs in there, but have yet to see any real slobs. |
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| This our first time to Cedar and we are staying at the (new owners) Clarks Camp Lodge, on the south end of the lake. Do we need to be aware of any hidden rocks or is the lake well marked for dangers?? We are heading up the June 16th are mainly fishing for walleyes --- are there an jig colors or baits that work better than other due to lake clairty?? Thanks for the hints! |
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Jeff and Connie, the managers of Clark's Northern Lights, will be able to tell you of the areas to watch out and the common traveling routes, as well as, put you on the walleyes. They should give you a little map of the lake. Sorry, but I don't know of any really good map showing the depth/structure.
It's always a good idea to ask other fishermen too.
Although I'm not a walleye fisherman, the first island directly north from camp has a rock just under the water on the south side about 20 yards from the island. It use to have a jug, but I don't remember seeing one there last year. Anyway, that use to be one of the popular places the campers use to fish for walleye early in the morning and late afternoon.
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