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Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan | What do most of you guys do with the hook that ticks the blade? Do you keep it as is, cut the points off, or replace it with a blank peice of metal that still ticks the blade? |
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| cut the other two hooks |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | I had to cut at least one hook as every time I made the "L" at the boat one of the hooks with a point would grab the tail and stop spinning. So I cut both of the other two points off and changes the front hook to a 6/0. |
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| Cut the points off, but don't cut too far down the shank or the blade can sometimes miss the hook, which might not be a bad thing since it would give a slightly different sound. |
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Location: Hugo, MN | Straighten It Out and cut the end so it just taps the plunger as it comes around. |
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Location: Kentucky | I'd say nip the hooks about 1/3 into the bend if it keeps hanging on the blade. Or you can replace with a cotter pin.
Here's a full mod of a large one into a Toasted Marshmellow. Rewired, tail bead for a little more durability and less pinching of wire, paint job, a little clearcoat, eyes. Do the muskies care? I doubt it...
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Location: Iowa | Cut them...
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| I've tried a million different tricks with those things. So has Chad Cain. We've even put house keys on them. What we've come to the conclusion is to just leave them as is. They have the best noise with the regular setup. If you get them to roll by the boat that's because your rod is at a higher angle than the lure. Try to keep your rod at the same level that the bait is in the water. In other words keep your rod tip at water level by the boat.
They also aren't made to be reeled fast. The whole physics of the hook hitting the blade will put too much pressure on the bait and in turn make the bait roll. The ticking noise at high speeds doesn't catch as many fish either from what I've found.
I've done the cotter pin thing and you catch fish on it but you catch more with the regular treble with one snipped. The sound is the most important thing and when you start to adjust the bait you loose some of the low tone that the regular hook and brass blade make.
I had a guy send five back because he said they all roll. I just tried them yesterday and they all work perfect. Now don't get me wrong, it's wood so every once in a while you get a bad chunk of wood. You can't jerk them or speed reel them though. It's just plain old physics. The faster you reel the more pressure the hook puts on the tail to roll the bait over. It just wasn't made to be reeled fast. Plus the sound is crappy at high speeds.
Sputterbug, give me a call. I have those large Pacemakers done for you guys.
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Location: Kentucky | Ty,
Thanks for the tips. I guess I'll replace the cotter pin with a whopper of a hook and nip it. I'm old, fat, and slow so don't mind fishing the Pacemaker that way. Maybe a fish similar to me will eat it.
I'll call ya
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| If you want a louder sound use a VMC hook. They are a thicker guage hook so they make a heck of a racket. That's about all I can think of that would change the bait to be louder but still have good noise.
Good luck,
Ty |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Ty, so are you saying to snip a little bit of the points off on the hook or not? Kinda confused. Thanks!
Edited by muskie_man 4/3/2007 4:46 PM
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Location: Hayward, WI | I don't want to speak for Ty, but in case he doesn't check back I think he means just leave them the way they are when you buy them. Keep the middle treble, and snip one of the bends off the hook, letting the blade click against the "flat" part of the hook. Ty, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan | thanks for all the insight, im going with just cutting the hook a little bit to keep the original/intended sound. Its crazy, for me at least, to ask a question about a bait and have a maker of that bait answer the question and give his insight on it. Having that along with all the other great insight given by great fishermen makes this site great; thanks a ton. |
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| Ya, I guess I wasn't very clear was I. What I meant to say was just leave it the way it is straight out of the package. That has been the most effective. Don't cut anything or snip anything.
I think one problem people have is when the middle screw eye gets turned at all, the bait will hang up. It has to hit fluch against the hook area that was cut off. If someone catches a fish or turns the screw eye even a quarter turn the bait will foul up. The blade should hit flush against the part of the hook that I cut. It's a finnicky bait.
Thanks guys,
Ty |
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Location: Elkhart, IN | Yes it is a finicky bait, but the muskies sure love them!! |
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