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Ball Cap
Posted 12/27/2006 10:34 AM (#227971)
Subject: 2007 MN 48" size limits ???


Hello all -

I've been stuck in Arizona for the last 8 months, so have kind of fallen out of the musky loop. I see a bunch of discussion of the new 48" limit on Cass Lake in the 2007 PMTT post.

Can someone please tell me which lakes went to 48"?

Thanks - Midge
happy hooker
Posted 12/27/2006 10:44 AM (#227977 - in reply to #227971)
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Posts: 3156


Treats has the list

if memory serves me Just about everything around Cass? Leech/Walker/ Longville area especially the lakes with known natural repo
everything around Bemidji ,
Vermillion
Mile Lacs
upper section of Mississippi total catch and release

Tried to get Tonka and whitebear included but dont know if it made it in time

Edited by happy hooker 12/27/2006 10:48 AM
Muskie Treats
Posted 12/27/2006 10:48 AM (#227978 - in reply to #227971)
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
I'll have more info next week after the round table, but Hook is right on from what I know.
Ball Cap
Posted 12/27/2006 11:06 AM (#227986 - in reply to #227971)
Subject: RE: 2007 MN 48" size limits ???


That's great news guys. Hopefull we can get WBL and Tonka included.

Actually, I'd like to see it statewide, but let's not get greedy to start !
Pepper
Posted 12/27/2006 1:03 PM (#228006 - in reply to #227971)
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I must have misread the paper last weekend I thought it said all the lakes in Mn. went to a 48" minimium.
BNelson
Posted 12/27/2006 1:15 PM (#228013 - in reply to #227971)
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Location: Contrarian Island
this is great news for alot of lakes..hopefully this leads to maybe a 52" size limit down the road...good work guys ...
Muskie Treats
Posted 12/27/2006 1:57 PM (#228025 - in reply to #227971)
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Pepper, it's going to be on around 20 lakes to start and we'll see where it goes from there.

I'd personally like to see a min of 50" on the natural lakes with a possible 54-55" limit on some of the trophy lakes like Leech, Cass, Mille Lac, Vermillion, etc.
happy hooker
Posted 12/27/2006 2:36 PM (#228034 - in reply to #227971)
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If I member correct it was 54 what was wanted on the big 4 leech,Milly,cass,V but the DNR advised we would never get it too big of a jump from 40'..maybe in a few more years we can go for it has 48'-54' wont be has big a leap
MN Jackpot
Posted 12/27/2006 4:48 PM (#228059 - in reply to #227971)
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Hey Guys,
I think this a good idea but, everything is tied to the Misssissppi watershed. The only thing
I wish they looked at some lakes in the DL Area and Alexandria area also. On the other side
of things it's a start.
Muskie Treats
Posted 12/27/2006 5:17 PM (#228063 - in reply to #227971)
Subject: RE: 2007 MN 48" size limits ???





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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Jackpot, I believe that some are in that area. I'll have the full list next week after the round table. I think that Miltona, Detroit and Battle are on it, but don't quote me just yet.
Silver Scale
Posted 12/27/2006 5:45 PM (#228069 - in reply to #227971)
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If I remember correctly there were something like 45 or so water bodies with connecting rivers. Not all waters are in the Mississippi drainage. Vermilion goes north to Hudson Bay along with the Bigfork and Little Fork Rivers. Saint Louis River goes out to the Atlantic via the great lakes. The only thing I know for sure is that the Mississippi River from Grand Rapids to Coon Rapids has been signed off on and will be catch and release only. St Louis River may wait a year and go to 50" to be the same as the Wisconsin side. My gut tells me that the list will be signed off on and go into effect in 2007. Maybe in a few years we can bump it up again on some of the trophy lakes. Baby steps are better than no steps..
Ball Cap
Posted 12/27/2006 11:53 PM (#228116 - in reply to #227971)
Subject: RE: 2007 MN 48" size limits ???


Silver Scales;

My thoughts exactly about saying not to be greedy. Baby steps first.

Slow and steady wins the race.

Midge
Jomusky
Posted 12/28/2006 12:43 AM (#228118 - in reply to #227971)
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin'
Hopefully this will help things in WI. Maybe someday anyways.

Perhaps it may sway the old guides(one in particular), dumb resort owners and Chamber of Commerce who fought against the last batch of size limit proposals. Or, maybe raise enough support and squash their influence.

I don't get why anyone is against higher size limits on a few good lakes with potential in WI.
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 12/28/2006 5:05 PM (#228283 - in reply to #227971)
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Location: Rhinelander.
I don't think the arguement in wisconsin would be over just a few good lakes. I think the support is there for that and I think its ok also. I believe the problem was it was something like 48 lakes they wanted it on. That was not going to happen from the get go. Then they reduced itto a smaller number of lakes. I think if they push for it again in wisconsin and limit it to about 2 dozen lakes it would be approved. As someone said in another post,baby steps!

Pfeiff
MNmatt
Posted 1/10/2007 11:34 AM (#231313 - in reply to #227971)
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Can anyone confirm these new size limits on certain lakes AND provide a list?

THANKS!

-m
hi
Posted 1/10/2007 12:53 PM (#231343 - in reply to #227971)
Subject: RE: 2007 MN 48" size limits ???


there's a little info here, 45 lakes approved.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/news/releases/index.html?id=1167165189

it doesn't say which lakes,

I bet you could e-mail theDNR for a list.
Muskie Treats
Posted 1/10/2007 2:45 PM (#231388 - in reply to #231343)
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Here's the list. Minnetonka and White Bear should have also been on here. I need to look into why they don't show-up.

Outcomes for the Proposed Muskie Regulation Change


Proposed Regulation change
WATER BODY Current Regulation Comments
Region 1
Cass 40" minimum 48" minimum
Andrusia 40" minimum 48" minimum
Big Wolf 40" minimum 48" minimum
Pike Bay 40" minimum 48" minimum
Kitchi 40" minimum 48" minimum
Buck 40" minimum 48" minimum
Big Rice 40" minimum 48" minimum
Pug Hole 40" minimum 48" minimum
Little Rice 40" minimum 48" minimum
Big Lake 40" minimum 48" minimum
Bemidji 40" minimum 48" minimum
Stump 40" minimum 48" minimum
Irving 40" minimum 48" minimum
Carr 40" minimum 48" minimum
Marquette 40" minimum 48" minimum
Schoolcraft River (connects with)* 40" minimum 48" minimum *Plantagannette to Mississippi River
Mississippi River (connects with)** 40" minimum 48" minimum **Carr-Irv-Bemi-Stmp-Wolf-Andr-Cass-Winni
Turtle River (connects with)*** 40" minimum 48" minimum ***Big Rice-Little Rice-Kitchi-Pug Hole-Cass
Big Lake Creek (Connects with)**** 40" minimum 48" minimum ****Big Lake to Andrusia
Big Boy 40" minimum 48" minimum
Swift 40" minimum 48" minimum
Rice 40" minimum 48" minimum
Benedict 40" minimum 48" minimum
Child 40" minimum 48" minimum
Little Woman 40" minimum 48" minimum
Girl 40" minimum 48" minimum
Louise 40" minimum 48" minimum
Boy River (connects with)* 40" minimum 48" minimum *Leech to Big Boy
Boy River (connects with)** 40" minimum 48" minimum ** Child, Little Woman, Woman, Girl
Unnamed(connects with)*** 40" minimum 48" minimum ***Benedict to Leech
Unnamed(connects with)**** 40" minimum 48" minimum ****Wabedo-Louise-L Boy-Rice-Inguadona
Inguadona 40" minimum 48" minimum
Little Boy 40" minimum 48" minimum
Miltona 40" minimum 48" minimum
Leech 40" minimum 48" minimum
Woman 40" minimum 48" minimum
Wabedo 40" minimum 48" minimum

Region 2
BIG WINNIBIGOSHISH40" minimum 48" minimum
BLANDIN RESERVOIR 40" minimum 48" minimum
POKEGAMA LK 40" minimum 48" minimum
BLACKWATER LK 40" minimum 48" minimum
BIG JAY GOULD LK 40" minimum 48" minimum
LITTLE JAY GOULD LK 40" minimum 48" minimum
MISS R (from Blandin Dam to Winnie Dam) 40" minimum 48" minimum
CEDAR 40" minimum 48" minimum
DEER 40" minimum 48" minimum
ISLAND 40" minimum 48" minimum
LITTLE MOOSE 40" minimum 48" minimum
LITTLE WINNIBIGOSHISH 40" minimum 48" minimum
MILLE LACS 40" minimum 48" minimum
MOOSE 40" minimum 48" minimum
NORTH STAR 40" minimum 48" minimum
VERMILION 40" minimum 48" minimum
CRANE 40" minimum 48" minimum
LITTLE FORK RIVER 40" minimum 48" minimum
BIG FORK RIVER 40" minimum 48" minimum
ST.LOUIS BAY/RIVER 40" minimum Withdraw until coord w/Wisconsin is completed
PRAIRIE RIVER (from mouth to Prairie Lk Dam) 40" minimum catch and release


Regions 1 and 2
Mississippi River from Carr Lake (Betrami Co.) to
Pokegama Lake (Itasca Co.) 40" minimum 48" minimum

Region 2 & 3
MISSISSIPPI RIVER (upstream from Coon Rapids 40" minimum catch and release
Dam to the Blandin Dam in Itasca Co)

Region 3
East-West Rush Lakes 40" minimum 48" minimum
MNmatt
Posted 1/10/2007 2:48 PM (#231391 - in reply to #227971)
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Thanks Treats.
Dan Urbas
Posted 1/10/2007 2:59 PM (#231395 - in reply to #227971)
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Posts: 66


Location: Minnesota
It's awesome to see this. I'm hoping for all catch and release regulations in the near future!!!
Obfuscate Musky
Posted 1/10/2007 3:29 PM (#231405 - in reply to #227971)
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Location: MPLS, MN
Treats your the man.

Thanks for keeping us updated.
DUCK
Posted 1/10/2007 8:18 PM (#231499 - in reply to #227971)
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Posts: 536


Location: Brainerd Area
DANG!! They forgot Alexander, Maby next year.
This is awsome!!

Duck
muskyone
Posted 1/11/2007 7:48 AM (#231569 - in reply to #227971)
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Posts: 1536


Location: God's Country......USA..... Western Wisconsin
Ok, are these "proposed" changes or do they actually go into effect in 2007?
BALDY
Posted 1/11/2007 9:42 AM (#231614 - in reply to #231569)
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anybody who lives or fishes muskies in MN owes Treats and the whole TC Chapter a big pat on the back once this goes into the regs. They played a BIG part in making this happen
Muskie Treats
Posted 1/11/2007 10:54 AM (#231637 - in reply to #227971)
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Hey Mike,

They're going to be passed in the rules committee in a few weeks. Unless there's something major (and nothing's come up that I know of) it's going to pass.

Thanks Baldy. Don't forget to thank ALL the MI chapters and the MMA as well. The MMA is really helping the sense of teamwork in the MN muskie community. In the old days we relied on a few people to carry the mail. Now I've been seeing more and more people getting interested in improving the fishery.
VMS
Posted 1/11/2007 11:56 AM (#231657 - in reply to #231637)
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Posts: 3504


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
I'm surprised that they stopped at Child Lake on the Boy river chain. They hit all of them except the last two in the chain.

Sure wouldn't hurt if they added those lakes as well..

Steve
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