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Message Subject: Mono For Trolling
BettieBait
Posted 1/2/2007 10:42 AM (#229454)
Subject: Mono For Trolling




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getting a few new trolling reels, and thinking of spooling up with some 25-30# mono instead of the usual super lines. since these lines are used for saltwater fish, I wont be casting them, and wont be trolling over rocks/timber, beyond the "memory" issues that mono has, why WOULDNT you suggest using mono?

BB
Schuler
Posted 1/2/2007 12:05 PM (#229470 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





Posts: 1462


Location: Davenport, IA
Stretch, less strength, and if you snag a bait you may lose it whereas with braid...you get it back.
tuffy1
Posted 1/2/2007 12:16 PM (#229476 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Location: Racine, Wi
I use both braids and floro lines for trolling. The only difference is that you won't be able to get your baits down deep as fast with mono. Aside from that, I really don't worry too much with mono or floro. They all have their places.
muskyboy
Posted 1/2/2007 12:35 PM (#229479 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling


I know clear water people who use 30 pound mono on planer boards with no problems, but I still prefer superbraids and fluoro leaders in those situations.

Edited by muskyboy 1/3/2007 10:49 AM
WV Musky
Posted 1/2/2007 2:04 PM (#229500 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling




Posts: 569


Location: Williamstown, WV
I have a question about mono line. I was watching barracuda fishing in florida and they had on mono line and they were catching big cuda. Now my question is if it's okay and cool for fisherman to use mono on cuda then why not musky? I do understand that in freshwater fishing you have more rocks and chances for abrasion, is that the reason? Thanks guys for the help.
Shawn
Marc J
Posted 1/2/2007 2:20 PM (#229503 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Location: On your favorite spot
More cudas than muskies - musky hooks don't rust out either whereas cuda hooks will in saltwater

Edited by Marc J 1/2/2007 2:26 PM
woodieb8
Posted 1/2/2007 2:42 PM (#229514 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling




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mono has pro,s. it keeps a bait riding a little higher in the water column. it also gives a little stretch, important in shortline trolling.. its cheaper and mono like big game berkley iis astounding forlittle memory. it also can be tied in simple knots. braids also have great applications, but if it was me mono in any situation other then fall dredging it would be mono.
Ranger
Posted 1/3/2007 6:00 AM (#229654 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Would not mono be more prone to getting nicks, and so are more likely to break with a fish?
Matt Kircher
Posted 1/3/2007 6:47 AM (#229659 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling


I use 30 pound big game for trolling all the time. It is much cheaper than braids and also has fishing advantages such as a bit of stretch when you are going at high speeds and your rods will be placed in rod holders. It is actually very abrasion resistant and seems less likely to snap than braids when trolling. Again, it all depends on the application. 50 pound power pro is ideal for when extra depth is needed or when trolling jerkbaits. For open water trolling where depth is not an issue though, you should be fine with mono.
tuffy1
Posted 1/3/2007 7:06 AM (#229661 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Location: Racine, Wi
Ranger, I don't have any problems with the line getting knicked at all even when banging the bottom. Of course, I'm usually banging sand and muck with some rock and logs, but either way, I haven't had any issues. I use P Line most of the summer on all 6 rods and have yet (knock on wood) to break one off. You just have to fight them easy. With some of the smaller baits we run, the mono or floro hybrid lines help us not straighten out the hooks on the baits as well.

I tend to use braids when I run larger baits (just a confidence thing I think) and when I'm looking to hit a certain depth a bit faster. You can get mono deep with drop weights as well, but that's still a work in progress for me as far as what I'm running with drop weights.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 1/3/2007 8:52 AM (#229674 - in reply to #229661)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Mono flourocarbon line for me most of the time. Super line has it's place in my arsonal also. The big reason I never have a problem is that I change my line 3 times a season on my mono trolling rigs. Premium P-Line is what I like to use. I get a 3000 yard spool every Spring.

One thing Joel pointed out is that the line will have some "give" to it along with a long quality trolling rod. With the line, rod length, and soft tip, I can get muskies to suck in a crank bait with ease. Lots of guys have short hits or "rips" with no hook-ups. I used to have that problem too. Quality hooks also helps my hook-ups. I change hooks on all my new baits if they are not what I prefer. Now top all of this off with a quality Flourocarbon leader and your set.

I like to run super lines with larger baits. These hooks are larger and need to be set harder. Super line allows me to get the hooks into a fish, unlike the smller, needle like hooks on the smaller baits. Super lines will also let your lure work more freely. Try to set up two rods. One with each set up. Now drop both back behind the boat and watch the action and depth of the bait. The super line will be deeper and have more action with the same lure on each rod. Now it's up to you to decide when and what to use. I like the super line is dirty water in Spring and Fall. Flouro coated mono in the Summer months during the day and at nigt I sometimes go back to the super line.

I hope this helps some and not confuses you. It's just what works for me.
MuskyHopeful
Posted 1/3/2007 9:03 AM (#229678 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Location: Brookfield, WI
For any of you guys that want to learn a little about trolling that haven't done it much, I suggest hiring Joel Michel or Mike Koepp when it's trolling time. I was amazed watching these two guys do their thing. I had no idea what it took, and they are VERY good at it.

Fun to talk to while you wait for the rip, too.

Kevin

Here musky, musky, musky.
muskihntr
Posted 1/3/2007 10:36 AM (#229703 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
i dont troll a ton but have been using the yozuri hybred (30 lb) with 36" stealth fluoro trolling leaders, and it has been working fine.
Schuler
Posted 1/3/2007 1:26 PM (#229743 - in reply to #229703)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





Posts: 1462


Location: Davenport, IA
muskihntr - 1/3/2007 10:36 AM

i dont troll a ton but have been using the yozuri hybred (30 lb) with 36" stealth fluoro trolling leaders, and it has been working fine.


Copolymers like yo-zuri are great in comparison to traditional nylon mono. They have a lot less memory. My favorite for bass is McCoy Mean Green. If you want to try a new line for trolling, check it out at http://www.mccoyfishingline.com/index.html
ToddM
Posted 1/3/2007 9:15 PM (#229832 - in reply to #229454)
Subject: RE: Mono For Trolling





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Location: oswego, il
I agree on the use of mono and for the reasons Tuffy1 and Mike Keopp have mentioned. I have tried superline twice. 2 rips and two instant line snaps like a digin backlash. My drags were not tight either. Like Mike said on the hoojups, just no issies hooking fish with mono. Hook choice is also very important. Not a huge fan of 4X hooks, fish don't seem to hook up well on them trolling.
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