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VMS
Posted 12/11/2006 6:02 PM (#224964)
Subject: Those Tough Bluebird days....





Posts: 3507


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Hi everyone,

Got to thinking a bit after watching Dick P's video (Again...). On those tough bluebird/post frontal conditions, or just overall times when fishing is just tough going, what is your main lure choice and why? What do you do differently with that bait that you otherwise would not d when fishing is better?

Steve
ESOX Maniac
Posted 12/11/2006 8:02 PM (#224972 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 2754


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin
Twitch a Zam or an Alien and slow way down!

Have fun!
Al
Pointerpride102
Posted 12/11/2006 8:10 PM (#224974 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
For me it isnt lure selection.....its head to the river. Bluebird days dont matter to me there.

Mike
dogboy
Posted 12/12/2006 7:50 AM (#225025 - in reply to #224964)
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If I really want to see a fish on a bluebird day, I will strap on a J-mac jig, and methodically pick apart thick slop, or for that matter, just cover water reeling steadilly with some pauses in there, DDD's also show me some fish when nothing else will, again, working at a painstakingly slow pace, lots of pauses, long ones, short taps, really trying to entice a fish to atleast check it out. These two baits are my go to's when it gets tough. maybe a 6" jake in there too.
Donnie3737
Posted 12/12/2006 7:53 AM (#225027 - in reply to #224964)
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I have found that there are alot of things you can do, to produce fish during these conditions. The main go-to tactic though, is running a Big Joe or heavy Bull Dawg off the deeper edges....OR, get three or four casts off of structure, and fish open water.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Donnie
jlong
Posted 12/12/2006 8:11 AM (#225028 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 1938


Location: Black Creek, WI
Depends where I am and just what kind of Blue Bird day is it? If it is following a nasty cold front that dropped water temps a few degrees it was so bad.... you could be in for a couple of awesome days of fishing.... with the first day being the toughest and progressively getting better and better. In this case... another bluebird day is a huge asset and one to look forward to!

In canada I'd finesse the heavy cabbage or wade right into the slop.... but not until after burnin' some blades over some of my best shallow rock spots first.

In WI I'd do some lake hopping. Early in the season June/July I'd head for a lake with a good "suspendo bite" and expect to have a great day. Or.... I'd head to some "dark water" and fish hard and fast with a LongTale Spinnerbait.

Quite honestly, I love bluebird days. The days that I hate are those nasty cold front days with a 25+ MPH Northwest wind with temps in the 40's when normal daytime highs are 70+F. Fish are down low, boat control sucks, you are freezin' your keester off, and PMA really suffers. At least with bluebird days boat control is a non-issue, you are comfortable, your presentation is simple, and PMA is easy to maintain.

So..... I guess now I'll favor SPEED first before I hunker down and start finesse fishing. At that goes for any weather condition.... but especially on Bluebird days.
jclymer
Posted 12/12/2006 10:25 AM (#225049 - in reply to #224964)
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night fish...
ulbian
Posted 12/12/2006 11:10 AM (#225061 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 1168


I get excited for days like this. My confidence goes up as most of my success has come on theoretically tough days. The lake hopping deal is dead on. It's a big confidence boost if you know a handful of lakes (or if you've got good rivers nearby) where the fishing is actually alot better on blue sky days.
CiscoKid
Posted 12/12/2006 11:40 AM (#225064 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
I agree with the lake hopping deal as well, and also fishing suspendos. If it’s bluebird I also want it to be fairly calm. The upper layer of water will be warmer, and usually all kinds of little minnows will be near the top. Brings up the bigger fish, and makes it easier for suspendos. Some days you need to be on clear, yet tanic water while other days the ultra clear lake is the pick of the day. You really need to know your lakes though as some clear lakes are pretty tough in those conditions.

Any lure works in bluebird days, and is lake dependent. I love using holoform baits though as it throws a lot of light for more drawing power from a distance. If my high riding stuff isn’t working then I go down. Sometimes nothing can beat a Big Joe fished down 20’+, especially on some deep humps.
Dacron + Dip
Posted 12/12/2006 12:44 PM (#225077 - in reply to #224964)
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Troll.
Reelwise
Posted 12/12/2006 12:45 PM (#225078 - in reply to #224964)
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Hmmm... I actually prefer bluebird skies over anything else.
J.Sloan
Posted 12/12/2006 4:51 PM (#225136 - in reply to #224964)
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI
Mentioned already, suspended fishing and night fishing.

In general, of course.

JS
bn
Posted 12/12/2006 4:54 PM (#225139 - in reply to #224964)
Subject: RE: Those Tough Bluebird days....


the largest fish I've caught was after 9 hours of zero fish seen, post frontal, blue bird skys all day since noon..hit at 9:30pm or so...(after dark)....so yah, I think making sure you are on the water a few hours after dark would be a good bet...
Billy B
Posted 12/12/2006 5:12 PM (#225141 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 267


Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
a few of the eight fish i caught this year year on those kind of days on topwater.
Kingfisher
Posted 12/13/2006 11:46 AM (#225258 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 1106


Location: Muskegon Michigan
I have a couple of things to add. Shallow gin clear lakes are a waste of time in blue bird conditions unless you fish at night. I look to stained lakes on bright days. Fish prime areas at first light and just before dark. use Planer boards to get lures away from the boat. Kingfisher
woodieb8
Posted 12/13/2006 6:22 PM (#225333 - in reply to #224964)
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bluebird days and clean water. planer boards and natural colors
sworrall
Posted 12/13/2006 10:09 PM (#225376 - in reply to #225333)
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Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Around home, I head for dark water and the slop with a Violent Strike Mag Willow. I run it JUST over the top of the slop. Just before dark, I go to a Top Raider or Weagle. On the Goon, those are ideal conditions, and I go to my pattern developed while there and fish it hard. On LOTW, it's the reeds, slop, and my spinnerbait. On Rainy, I punt and fish giant smallmouth. And so on,
Sab
Posted 12/14/2006 6:02 AM (#225406 - in reply to #224964)
Subject: RE: Those Tough Bluebird days....




Posts: 69


Well looking at background pictures of our Musky pictures, I might as well stay in the bar all day.The few I have were a late bite 9-10 pm,and a couple on a weedy river,so that corresponds with some of the responses.I remember a bluebird week in July on LOTW 7-8 years ago that was as ugly as ugly gets.Only thing I got on that trip was one great tan.
musky-skunk
Posted 12/14/2006 4:58 PM (#225597 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 785


I like to look for shady banks, ripping and jigging 8" t.tubes, and I also like slow rolling deep cabbage with a heavy rad dog. Thats seems to always be good for something where I fish. Also early morning and late evening/night.
curleytail
Posted 12/14/2006 7:31 PM (#225634 - in reply to #224964)
Subject: RE: Those Tough Bluebird days....




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
Definately fish prime times (low light/rapidly changing light levels). I think sometimes there is a more significant period of high activity at the end of bright sunny day. My best theory is that fish haven't fed so much during the day, so they make up for it the last hour of the day and an hour or so into dark. As far as baits I would just say use whatever is most appropriate for the conditions. I fished a stained lake quite a bit this year, and did pretty well on tail rotators and walk the dog baits fished over shallow (3-5 feet) weed flats towards evening. Mornings would probably be good too.

If you have to, or want to fish during the day, I like to fish heavy weeds when the sun is high. I'd mainly use whatever baits that could get through them. Spinnerbaits are probably a great choice. Topwater might work again, but I would have less confidence in it during bright, tough conditions.

curleytail

Edited by curleytail 12/14/2006 7:34 PM
bluegill
Posted 12/14/2006 8:45 PM (#225655 - in reply to #224964)
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Posts: 199


Location: Sandusky, OH
A couple guys I know insist that bright orange and yellow/chartruese baits are triggers on bluebird days. I can't say one way or another (it doesn't make sense to me), but I had more action on those days on the Detroit and St Clair Rivers on an orange coachdog Sledge and chartruese Bobbie than on anything else.
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