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Stein
Posted 12/5/2006 8:51 AM (#223776)
Subject: Holding a fish





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska
This is a legit question and is not directed in any way towrards any angler, but with all of the talk of no vertical holds, I have seen a lot of horizontal holds with fish cradled in one arm or hugged to the chest with one or both arms. In many pics the angler is wearing a sweatshirt or other shirt. Doesn't hugging a fish to your chest in a sweatshirt remove an enormous amount of slime off of a huge area of the fish? How hard on fish is removing that slime layer? Or has it been shown that it isn't that big of a deal?

Granted, I have only caught low 40's fish, but try to hold them in the gill with one hand and support the rest of the fish with my other hand, keeping the fish from contacting the carpet or my clothing.
FartBoy
Posted 12/5/2006 9:59 AM (#223790 - in reply to #223776)
Subject: RE: Holding a fish




Posts: 25


Sort of feel the NEW body hold removes lots of slime myself if wearing absorbant clothes.
You can see it later when catching fish later in season.
Big swip on mid body wear slime was removed while holding fish ten minutes for photos.

Weak people should not hold big fish.


Ever catch one with hand makrs on head or by gills from not wetting hand.
We have.
Pike too.
Not good to see.
CSI musky people can an will track you down as hand print is so clear you would not need AFIS.

In cooler weather I wear an old cheap slippery lund jacket that don't do much slime damage to heavy fish we get.
Smells funky to so I guess it would be a draw. Never washed it since they gave it to me in 1988.
Do see the slime on me when done ASAP.
Try not to hold to many in a season for sure.
Rather hope on board an go for a ride.


In summer if we get a big fish that is different than others an someone wants a photo I'm such a stud I hold them a bit away from body elbows locked an smiling.
Don't photo up them all as whats the point, water release shots rock an help fish big time.
Monster fish caught during hot nights while we are naked or shirtless rub against sweaty skin so we, being kinda slimmy to, no harm no foul.
2007 will be shooting for a shot for the late Coyote Boy Cady holding one by the tail, snoot down like a big tuna.
In da bag she rest, then LIVE baby, LIVE.

Ufda.

FartBoy




mikie
Posted 12/5/2006 10:52 AM (#223804 - in reply to #223776)
Subject: RE: Holding a fish





Location: Athens, Ohio
Tom, good to see ya here.
Cady with a Tuna hold! priceless. m
Beaver
Posted 12/5/2006 11:37 AM (#223812 - in reply to #223776)
Subject: RE: Holding a fish





Posts: 4266


I notice that "the hug" is normally used on big fish too heavy for the angler to hold in one hand and support with the other.
Whether it's a 50#er being held by a full sized man, or a 40"er being held by a kid, sometimes you just can't keep them supported or stop them from flopping.
All we can do is try our best.
Beav
dogboy
Posted 12/5/2006 12:37 PM (#223833 - in reply to #223776)
Subject: RE: Holding a fish





Posts: 723


I dont think slime removal is that serious of a deal, that is my opinion, but, I know guys see fish with marks on them, the net is a huge culprit of that also, but, I think they can reproduce slime just as fast as it can come off. When I used to kill a lot of northerns in my younger days for eating, mainly icefishing, I would bring them home, and throw them in the basement sink, as I would grab each one, they would be secreting slime like you wouldn't believe. I could take paper towel, and whipe them off to the point of them almost being dry, and they would slime right back up, the slime is their protection yes, but, think about spawning, rubbing on rocks, wood, sand, all those surfaces take slime off just the same, some fish lay tight to bottom, you can see little red dots on them from the sand and gravel, belly scraping the whole way. tell me that doesnt take slime off. slime is made to come off, and be replaced by new slime. You would have fish floating all over the place if they died from slime loss.

Im not saying to go out and love your fish to death with a bear hug.
IM not telling everyone it is ok to lay them down on your carpet and let'em flop. I dont lay fish down for measuring, they all stay in the water until they are ready for a picture, I myself don't hug fish, but don't see a problem with someone who can't hold a large fish straight out in front, huggin them to keep them from doing the crappie flop in the bottom of the boat. that is the big problem, having a fish bonk itself in the bottom of the boat, seen it many a times. and the angler sits with that fish for 10-15 minutes before they finally figure out they should wiggle away.
I really think anglers should stress more concern for when they pull the fish out of the net, trying to support its weight the whole way without stretching their necks out, about 8 years ago, I vertically held a very fat 37" pike by the back of the head , and just the weight of the fish against my fingers on the sides of the gill plate caused them to tear a good inch or so. that fish ended up table fare instead of released like I had wanted,

lots of people say we put muskies up on a pedastal, in most cases we do. but its because they are a resource that isn't as renewable as say sunnies and perch, yes, keeping your fights short, keeping the fish in the water for best releases, unhooking without damaging the fish too bad, not taking 13 pictures with different poses like you just shot and gutted a big buck, all that time out of the water is like me holding your head under water, no different. Keeping the fish healthy for release is our responsibility to our natural resource, we all should practice good cpr techniques. But time and time again, I see more mishandling by who I thought were well educated anglers, guys vertically holding fish while dancing around the boat trying to find their camera, when did this become a forget everything we practiced as soon as the fish hits the net?
Im not pointing any fingers at anyone in particular, so if this gets deleted, well, someone musta felt guilty, but, we all need to do our part to educate individuals we fish with or just talk to about fishing. Keep the ego aside, and help another angler keep our resources around for the next generation to enjoy.
The reason why we are all seeing more fish, bigger fish, is because catch and release has become a thing of the norm, replicas are easy to get, and that fish can continue on spawning. Who don't anglers want to see it get even better? does it feel good to thump a 33 lb fish knowing she could have seen what Tom Gelbs fish aspired to?
Let em go, Let em grow. I hope I don't poorly represent my musky club or anyone takes offense to my post, but Im in C@R musky club, and thats what we do. we help eachother out in sharing proper release techiniques, better ways to hold fish, and best of all, many many release pitures. Not to mention, our club will donate $200 to any angler who catches a 50 or better towards a replica of their choice, hows that for incentive?
Its winter time now, maybe a good time to reflect back on your season, and see if there was something you could have done better to ensure a fishes safety, many of you can't do any better than you already are for releasing fish, Im sure you bark up the same tree to all of your friends and Uncle Steve who grills one every labor day weekend. good job, keep at it.

Its been another long season, and once again, I needed to rant. sorry.
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