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| has anyone ever tried lure scents?
we were talking about them this weekend and someone said that "Dr. So-and-So's Musky Juice" pretty much smelled like bacon.
thoughts...?
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| mmmmmmm.... bacon! |
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| I don't believe that muskies take the time to smell their food once they commit to eating it.
They don't feed like catfish. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | baaaaccooon!
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| Once a berkley pro told me add 'glitter' to your scent on jerkbaits,,when you jerk it the glitter flys off and looks like scales comming off a wounded fish supposed to trigger a predator strike,,,always meant to try it on throw back |
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| Someone who clearly had a scientific understanding to back him up once said I wasted time and money putting "Nitro Grease" on cranks when trolling at night. (That's the stuff that's like vasoline, and it really stays on the bait.) He talked all about how the fish smell stuff, and compared walleyes (good smellers) to muskies (poor smellers). He was very convincing. I still use the stuff, but it is messy.
BTW - one late winter I loaded up the dishwasher with all kinds of wood baits. It was to remove all scent plus that Nitro slime. Easy to put them in, but it tooks me at least an hour to get all those dang baits back out of that dishwasher. |
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Location: nationwide | Tried a few different kinds on bucktails way back in the late 80's. Used some of the liquid and some of the moldable. Never really saw a marked difference between an angler using scents and one not using them in the same boat. After a few summers of playing around with them and not noticing anything really drastic I lost interest. We used a tupperware container to soak the bucktails in between spots and at night. Man that stuff will change the colors of bucktails . . .especially light colored ones. I think the liquid we mainly used was the Dr. Juice and the moldable was from Berkley.
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Location: Brookfield, WI | What about using common sense? Having one with everybody in the place last weekend displayed a distinct lack of angler common sense.
Kevin
I know better, but you wouldn't think so.
Edited by MuskyHopeful 11/1/2006 4:10 PM
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| Kevin, if we had any sense we wouldn't drive several hundered miles North to go fishing in the cold for a fish we hardly ever catch and throw back when even we do. 
But since none of us are smart enough not to do that, let's talk about scent!
I don't think it matters one bit what the lure smells like. I watched several muskies this past weekend swim right up and stare at something that really WAS food and they wouldn't eat it. I have seen others that clobber a lure the second it hits the water before you've even had a chance to reel.
When they wanna eat they're gonna eat. Until then, they ain't gonna eat. You might get lucky once in a while and be able to entice the ones that were on the fence, but it isn't the smell that's doing it.
My 2 cents anyway....
Edited by esoxaddict 11/1/2006 4:21 PM
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| I'm on the fence with the scent issue...I think once in a while an added scent to say a bucktail could get a following fish to eat it...it might just be that last thing that it needs to trigger them...some may not think so, that is fine...i'm saying it might be very rare, but I think it can get some fish to eat...rarely is the key here...is it worth the time, money and effort to do? probably not...
I did however think of cutting up a dead sucker and putting small chunks on my fuzzy trebles.... |
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| it used to be wd-40 that makes sense at least you can lube something |
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| this is where I disagree EA...have you ever had a musky following your bait flaring it's mouth back and forth almost like it was "tasting" the bait..now I know their sense of smell is not in their mouth but it really looks like at times they are tasting the bait..this happens particularly with bucktails..I was fishing once where we were getting lots and lots of follows with bucktails...my partner put on some crazy stinky garlic scent and he did get one to hit...was it the scent or just that the fish wanted to eat...????
to me it would only make a difference in a fish that follows a long way and maybe the scent just sends them over the edge to hit it....but maybe .01 of fish encounters would it matter...that is my 2 cents. |
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | im going with the other thoughts.........MMMMMMMMMM bacon!!!!!! |
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| I've been involved in some scent research on different species of fish and we basically found that northern and musky do not relate to scent like other fish do. Catfish are all about the scent of there food as are carp, walleyes are pretty scent orientated and bass are a little less scent orientated. Northerns and musky did not respond positive or negative regardless of the scent used. |
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Location: oswego, il | I have heard stories from guides who have seen a baitfish swim around only to see a musky swim in that same pattern after the other fish vacated and the musky swam off in that very same direction. I think they can smell, how do they find spawning females? I think it is just a matter of how much they use it. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Esox have a notoriously poor sense of smell, and I've been able to prove that. I used to bet I could catch more pike and muskies on a rope soaked in gasoline that others would on any bait of choice. I never lost. |
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| Not really sure, good conversation. How do fish in huge bodies of water find the right stream to spawn in? I know salmon use thier smell. Maybe they can smell well but they use it for other reasons? |
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| Reelman! You were the guy who I talked about above, I bet. |
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| Ive tried using scents once... It was made by Dragon to be used for Perch-fishing, and the smell was awful. After having the scent-bottle in my gearbag
for a couple of weeks I had to throw the bag away and get a new one, couldnt stand the smell  |
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Location: Neenah, WI | Slamr,
Nailed it perfect buddy!!
SAINT |
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Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | could water type play a role at all? from things i have read catfish developed their sense of smell out of need. most cats live in river enviroments where turbidity and lack of light penetration required they evolve into "smell" predators rather than sight predators.
could the same thing hapen in musky populations that have evolved in dark water environments i.e. the mississippi river in the twin cities metro vs mille lacs?
Edited by castmaster 11/2/2006 7:36 AM
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| Hello Everyone:
I can't let this post go without a reply! I love the Bait Sauce! A little on my hands, a touch behind the neck (Aftershave), some on my bait, and most of it on the floor of Norms boat! I thought the pink really added to the color scheme of Norms boat. Chuck Nelson enjoyed scraping the goo from the inside of my Calcutta reel. Lester Hayes (Cornerback for the Raiders in the 70's-80's) used stickem to snag interceptions. I used bait sauce to snag a personal best 7 muskies during the Rhinelander muskie league three years ago ( 5 legals). I received a three year suspension from commissioner Wild (Norm) for breaking Norms strict illegal substance (That made his boat messy) abuse program. I have not caught many fish since this time but people started talking to me more at the bar after league now that I don't smell like a rotten baitfish.
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| Brad
You sure they're not just laughing at you???
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA | I keep a bottle of the dr juice and spray a little on my hands as a cover scent before changing baits. I doubt it matters, but it's what I do...
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada | As a youngster my friends and I used to catch some really nice pike fishing a dead perch on bottom at night. Tell me the fish didn't find it by smell? We would catch more fish if we sliced into the perch with a knife to get the scent really flowing! Caught some big Bowfins and eels doing that also. |
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| I have been using scents all year and I am convinced I am getting fish to commit becuase of it. Two weeks ago I started the day with a handful of follows, all the fish went around on the 8 but know eaters, put scent on and had my best day with 4 fish, two in the mid 40's. I also lost two others. Maybe the scent helped or maybe they just decided to eat, but for a couple bucks a bottle, and a little more confidence, I think its worth it. Just my two scents. |
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