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| Post some pictures of these I would like to see them.Bill |
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Location: north central wisconsin | good points Jason. I also like using heavier indiana blades for those reasons. Good thump, ;ess resistance, and deep running. they also wander less making them more weedless. Can someone better explain the willow bending? |
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| sorenson's pictures, even no fish, are better than pics from the midwest w/ fish!!
Man..what a beatuiful place to live, boat and fish.
if there were more muskies out there... |
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| tomcat - 6/27/2006 1:56 PM
sorenson's pictures, even no fish, are better than pics from the midwest w/ fish!!
Man..what a beatuiful place to live, boat and fish.
if there were more muskies out there...
They sure beat the heck out of all those Webster pics we keep seeing. I am sick of that one lake house everybody catches a fish in front of. If I ever fish Webster I am going to know where to go, LOL. Love those willow tree/isolated weedbeds, ideal for lining up the fish. |
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| jlong - 6/23/2006 8:05 AM
Hey Slamr... since you are giving away all of Worrall's tricks  why don't you explain the "bent willowleaf" technique? That one is an essential part of "tuning" a spinnerbait for the desired speed&thump (or for the lazy guy... its a way to get the most vibe with least resistance/fatigue ).... in my opinion.
Similar to Worrall's Willow trick.... I fold the front edge down on my Colorado blades. It lowers the running angle a little... yet the "fold" pushes more water similar to fluted indiana.... and the resistance is reduced for more speed or less fatigue. These tricks may or may not make a difference... but any time you can "fiddle" with a lure to add your own personal touch... your confidence increases and you fish "better" as a result..... right? ;- )
I looked at this and read this and looked and read again and still don't understand, Hulbert must be wrong, I don't know everything yet. How can any bait PUSH MORE WATER and the RESISTANCE BE REDUCED? Seems somewhat improbable.
Is PUSH the term you meant to use? Or is it more involved with turbulence? |
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| FSF,
I agree, seems counter intuitive. I'd be curious to have it explained more thoroughly, too.
Anyway, so last fall I bought a Violent Strike single mag. willow per suggestions on this board. When I got it the first thing I did was bend the blade a little in front of (toward the swivel) the blade's midpoint. Holy smokes does that thing push a wake! For all you bulgers or spinnerbait-over-the-weed freaks, you gotta try this. It will be clipped on my rod everyday on LOTW in a couple weeks.
Another technique some down here in IL use is to cast the spinnerbait up onto the bank and drag it to the water's edge. As the bait slides in RIIIIPPP it. If the lake you fish tends to hold fish super shallow or tight up against shore, this might be something to consider. I haven't monkeyed around with it too much myself, but did one evening last fall with the aforementioned spinnerbait and nearly had the rod ripped out of my hands. Also, I'm not sure if this has something to do with the forage base so common down here - shad - that tend to ball up near shore, in any case it would be worth a shot. The triggering mechanism is speed and water displacement. It's virtually the same concept as speeding the bait up or pumping it in as it nears the boat, only what I'm talking about is done at the beginning of the cast.
Again, I'm not sure about LESS resistance if it puts out MORE thump and displaces MORE water, but it sure is a breeze to throw on a 7'6 MH rod and big 7000 model reel (I think the reel is the key ingredient there). Anything else and you'll definately feel the difference.
Edited by esox50 6/27/2006 8:11 PM
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Location: Black Creek, WI | FSF,
Yah..... I agree... seems counter-intuitive to push more water with less resistance. My theory is that the blade spins slower (less revolutions) and in a "broken up" manner that gives you that "throb" feeling through the rod tip. Thus, you have fewer "pushes" of water as teh blade turns... but of greater volume (if that makes sense). The end result is a lure that can scream through the water.... and produce plenty of THUMP.... without the constant drag of a smooth, fast-spinning blade.
For example.... some of the #7 Willows I use flare out nicely (higher angle from the shaft) but the pull like a dead elephant carcass (lots of resistance). The rod tip has a high frequency but subtle throb to it. Bending the blade decreases the frequency of that throb... but the pulsation is much stronger or more intense.... and the resistance is less.... allowing for more speed. I really like doing this on larger #8 Willows when I want to reach super speeds while casting. Not sure if that makes sense... as it is difficult to write clearly.... but that is what I meant earlier when I said "push more water with less resistance". Maybe I should have said "increased thump with less resistance"?
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Location: Maple Grove, MN | I don't know much about messing with spinner bait blades except every time I do it, the lures don't work so well. I have tried changing blades and stuff like that on a few of my CJs, but the lures never seem as affective after that. Sometimes it can be hard to improve a bait and all one does is mess it up.
I suppose it depends on the bait and the lake one is fishing as to how much room there is for improvement. What will work for one spinner bait won't work for another and the same goes for lakes. Fish in one lake will like something and the same thing won't work at all on another lake a few miles away.
Muskies are confusing things. They are kind of like trying to figure out the opposite sex. As soon as one thinks they understand something, they change.  |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | Herb b..... that's why Worrall's Willow trick and my Colorado Cupping concept are so nice. The ability to "tune" a spinnerbait to produce whatever speed, thump, etc. that the fish want THAT day on THAT lake is priceless. If you mess up the blade.... just pop a new one on and your back in business.
Most musky fisherman like to tinker... and add their own special "twist" to their presentation... which is why this "trick" is so wonderful... in my opinion. It may be nothing more than providing the angler with some false confidence.... but if they have confidence in that lure they will fish that lure better. The way I see it... you can't go wrong by bending a spinnerbait blade. |
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