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Message Subject: Mortality age for tiger muskies
lonewolf
Posted 3/23/2006 2:02 PM (#183878)
Subject: Mortality age for tiger muskies




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How old do tiger muskies get? I recently saw a decent tiger in a lake that has not been stocked in the last 15 years, at least to my knowlege. I was fishing sunnies on eagle lake in carver county, a shallow small lake, when a 40ish tiger slid up to take a look at my camera. She hung around for almost 10 minutes, so I got a good look. If this fish is really 12-15 years old, shouldn't she be bigger?

By the way hello to all the old timers on the board. This is the original lonewolf. I've been out of circulation for a while. I hope to see you all on the lakes when the water gets soft.
happy hooker
Posted 3/23/2006 2:09 PM (#183879 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies


Our Minn dnr has said that on "average" stocked tigers live 7 yrs, of course some could live longer,,thats why you aways look at the stocking reports and target the lakes that had above average stockings 6-7 yrs previous 1e- ,,"oops" wasnt suppose to say that!!! oh well nobody fishes the tiger lakes anyway
happy hooker
Posted 3/23/2006 2:35 PM (#183882 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies


Lonewolf
you peeked my curiousity??? are you talking about the 'eagle lake " west of waconia and just down the road from Young America'??? if so I just checked the dnr stocking reports that I HAVE,,,Eagle in 2004 recived 233 fingerling tigers and also recived fish in 2002 Im sure it has been stocked regularly in the past every two years??? I was to that Eagle once I Had to pull a guy up the ramp in Aug and he had 4wd,,the ramp was so full of slippery algae,,that lake turns into a swamp after june
lonewolf
Posted 3/23/2006 3:04 PM (#183883 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies




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happy hooker,
yup it's the same lake. Just west of waconia. It is quite clear during the walleye opener and until about mid to late june. I have heard reports from several walleye anglers of 40+ inch fish, but not for a few years. From july 1st to sept 1st you better bring some slime be gone. The lake surface turns a flourecent green/yellow on top until the algea chokes itself off in september. I tried to access the mn dnr stocking records like I had before. but could not find them. Where did they go?

p.s. if you fish eagle, stop by, I always have a cold one in the fridge.
sorenson
Posted 3/23/2006 8:01 PM (#183928 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





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Location: Ogden, Ut
I know that there are instances where they have lived to about 15 years, but that is exceedingly rare. I have been working and playing w/ them for about 16 years now and have yet to document one over 8 years old. Our 5 year-old fish are usually about 40"; growth rates, however, are an extremely variable thing.
S.
lonewolf
Posted 3/23/2006 9:22 PM (#183941 - in reply to #183928)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies




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soreneson

wow I didn't know that tigers were that short lived. Thanks for the info!
sorenson
Posted 3/24/2006 8:58 AM (#183990 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





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Location: Ogden, Ut
The brightest candles burn out the quickest...
S.
Bytor
Posted 3/24/2006 10:48 AM (#184022 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





Location: The Yahara Chain
Sorno wouldn't where the Fish live be a factor? A Tiger on the Chippewa Flowage might live longer than a Tiger in Utah?

Just wondering.
sorenson
Posted 3/24/2006 10:57 AM (#184024 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





Posts: 1764


Location: Ogden, Ut
Sure, that's kind of what I meat w/ the candle statement. They are virtually unopposed as king predator once they reach a length of about 14" here in Utah (which is about October or November of their first fall here). But in places where they actually have to work to find food and compete w/ other predators they would probably last a couple years longer. If the system is fertile, I still believe they grow faster and die quicker than either of their parental stocks. I have no idea what the Chip is like specifically, but I doubt they'd live much past 9 or 10 anyway.
S.
Bytor
Posted 3/24/2006 11:29 AM (#184030 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





Location: The Yahara Chain
They occur naturally in the Chip and they get very big. Their markings get very dark....the older they get the darker they get. Very pretty fish. Here is a Chip fish that was the biggest tiger that was caught by one of our club members in '05 (CCMI). Very pretty fish. The tigers seem to grow to about 49-50" on the Chip. I don't think they are 40" in five years like your fish.


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ToddM
Posted 3/24/2006 4:25 PM (#184070 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





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Location: oswego, il
Bytor and others, here is someting I have heard and I know on the chip pike were at least not pletiful untill the state stocked them. Were the tigers natural in the chip before they stocked the pike? I know there are some other lakes that have few if any pike yet have a fishable population of tigers. Makes one think if they can spawn to some extent.
esoxcpr
Posted 3/25/2006 9:13 PM (#184211 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies




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Todd,

The state has never stocked northerns in the Chip or anywhere else that muskies occur. It's policy not to stock the two in the same waters. A fishing club or lake association may have stocked them, but I'd suspect that they have made their way there on their own without any help from stocking efforts, just as they have to most other northern Wisconsin lakes.

Chippewa Flowage stocking records 1970 - present:

http://infotrek.er.usgs.gov/traverse/f?p=155:1:2320367112486188840:...

http://infotrek.er.usgs.gov/traverse/f?p=155:1:2342233687222192532:...

http://infotrek.er.usgs.gov/traverse/f?p=155:1:2342233687222192532:...


lots of luck
Posted 3/27/2006 9:16 AM (#184385 - in reply to #183878)
Subject: RE: Mortality age for tiger muskies





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Location: Mayer, MN
I caught and released a 39" Tiger from the West Arm of Lake Minnetonka last fall on 10-15-05. The weekend that the PMTT Championship was going on. Doesn't that blue bird sky ring a bell for everyone that competed? Anyways, is there Tiger stocking history on Tonka or is this fish a natural reproduced fish?


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