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Message Subject: grinding the milfoil
widewhale
Posted 6/8/2005 2:09 PM (#150074)
Subject: grinding the milfoil


1. I gather that most of the spinnerbait grinding being touted takes place in cabbage weeds. Has anyone spent substantial time grinding through the much more sticky milfoil? If so, have you been rewarded?

2. Is it really crucial that one does not "snap" the bait free of weeds? Preliminary work with a 2.5 ounce Grinder suggests that my bait is not fouled by doing so. Is this just an uneffective presentation with respect to inducing strikes

Thank you in advance for your help on this matter.
Shane Mason
Posted 6/8/2005 2:52 PM (#150076 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil




Location: WI
I love the milfoil, and not just the edges, get right in there with it. I havent used spinnerbaits much in there since the lakes I fish they dont really care for spinner baits. Anything you can work through the slop will be effective. And dont mind the weeds they will eat it with weeds on.

I was out with a buddy last week and he was tossing spinnerbaits mostly and through the thick milfoil and he was pulling fish out of their. It was pretty much the only area we were having any luck that day.

Another trick I use for the milfoil is to run through it with the boat motor and get them kicked out of there and then go back and hit the edges if you dont like fishing in the slop.
Bytor
Posted 6/8/2005 3:28 PM (#150082 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil





Location: The Yahara Chain
In responce to #1. The lakes that I fish that have milfoil(Yahara chain in Madison, WI) the weeds are so thick that it would be impossible to "grind". The spinner bait would become engulfed in milfoil. You can only work over the tops of the weeds, nothing can go through the weeds.
Reef Hawg
Posted 6/8/2005 5:28 PM (#150094 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
Shane, I noticed you didn't say anything about me actually catching any of the fish that were grabbing the spinnerbait....DOGHHH!!!!
That little pond had some nice fish in it though. Glad to see some big fish in such a small water!

Was working a Rad Dog through the milfoil in the metro in MN over the weekend. The willow bladed one worked best, which surprised me as I always liked how my fluted models came through the cabbage. Just have to get more willows now. Anyone have the rad dog contact?

Edited by Reef Hawg 6/8/2005 5:30 PM
Shane Mason
Posted 6/8/2005 5:42 PM (#150096 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil




Location: WI
Reef Hawg, cant do much when you hook them in the tooth and it just pulls the tooth out, at least you got a souvenier from that one.

I will tell you now, you turned me into a beliver as far as Wisconsin muskies eating spinner baits, and your methods of working right through it by far outshined me going over the top in the slop.

Willow blades you say, I will have my guy make some of those up too, never been much of a fan of the willows but maybe I will have to give them more of a try although I only know of a few other lakes where the milfoil was as thick as it was on the lake we were on. I know plenty with nice cabbage fields.
2Rodknocker
Posted 6/8/2005 8:49 PM (#150114 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil




Posts: 459


Location: New Baden IL
Well we know it can work but HOW do you go about it?
I cant seem to do anything but go over the top or fish the edges.
Help us all out if you can.
Thank you,
Rod
MNMuskies
Posted 6/9/2005 8:46 AM (#150155 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil





Posts: 28


Location: Sarell, MN
Reef Hawg
Here is the contact info for Ruff's Rad Dog

Ruff Tackle
426 171/2 Ave N
St.Cloud, MN 56303
Phone: 320-253-3261
e-mail: [email protected]

Mike Ruff is one heck of a nice guy and a great Musky fisherman, I know him from the St. Cloud chapter of Muskies Inc.


Sean
Guest
Posted 6/9/2005 8:58 AM (#150160 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil


Hope you arn't chopping up Muskies with the mow down the weeds with the outboard trick. NOt a good idea to say the least.
Reef Hawg
Posted 6/9/2005 9:27 AM (#150169 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
2rodnocker,

One thing that has helped me tremendously in keeping some more weeds off the lure, is to get rid of the swivel and snap on the leader and either tie the wire direct or use a split ring to attach. This by no means eliminates weeds, but reduces them by alot.

MN thank you!! I will get in touch with him right away.

Edited by Reef Hawg 6/9/2005 9:28 AM
Shane Mason
Posted 6/9/2005 11:51 AM (#150192 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil




Location: WI
Guest, you dont actully get in there and chop anything, if you actully in the milfoil doing this you would end up burning up motors before their time, so you dont want the motor in the milfoil, trim it up far enough just so you can still push the boat but arent in the stuff, its the noise and commotion that pushes them out of the stuff. Actully ripping up the milfoil is counter productive as you will just end up making more milfoil. It will grow from just a small piece of the stuff. That is why you are supposed to clean off your trailers when coming off the lake. Most of the heavy infested milfoil lakes I fish the milfoil is down a foot or two from the top of the water, which makes it easy to run over the top of it.
jonnysled
Posted 6/9/2005 12:23 PM (#150196 - in reply to #150074)
Subject: RE: grinding the milfoil





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
an old bass tourney trick i learned while living down south that can be effective with willow leaf blades is to actually put a sharpened edge on the blade. it takes some time to get it right, and you can't do it with cheap blades. give it a try as you will have a bait that can "cut" the weeds ... it's not a perfect solution, but it does make a vast improvement vs. working with factory dull edges. then, be careful handling the baits, especially with kids. i knew some guys that would get them razor sharp to work through slop.
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