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muskiekid
Posted 1/29/2005 9:13 AM (#132970)
Subject: Scotties Vs. Downeasters?




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Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
I'm outfitting the new boat and will be putting rod holders for trolling on them for the sides and stern. I want to attach them to the rails. Looking for input as to which brand to purchase. Thanks - Tom
GregM
Posted 1/29/2005 10:12 AM (#132976 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Bagley,MN 56621
DOWNEASTERS, hands down.

It so easy to get the rod out when you get a snag or a fish. Just pop the reel out of the clamp, the other ones you have to wrestle the long rod handle out of it while there is pressure.....too much of a pain, also the chance at getting slack line.

S-14 is the rail mount model number.

http://www.muskyshop.com/modules/cart/products.php/nav_id/22/page/1...

Edited by GregM 1/29/2005 10:14 AM
davej
Posted 1/29/2005 4:52 PM (#132998 - in reply to #132970)
Subject: RE: Scotties Vs. Downeasters?




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What Greg said, there is no question.
kevin
Posted 1/29/2005 7:46 PM (#133006 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Chicago, Beverly
I like the downeasters but have never seen the scotties before....
PunchandJudy
Posted 1/30/2005 12:06 PM (#133038 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Lake City,Pa.
When we bought our new boat we bought 4 scotties and we will replace them with downeasters. Scotties will work their way out of the mount and popĀ out when trolling at higher speeds with larger baits.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 1/30/2005 1:01 PM (#133043 - in reply to #133038)
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
I have used them both and there is not much of a choice. My Pro PMTT partners 620VS has the Scotties and I have the DownEast on my 620VS. Hands down the DownEast is the superior rod holder. It is more adjustable and lasts longer.

One other + for the DownEast is the quickness you can get your rod out of the holder. Lift straight up and fight the fish on the DownEast or turn the lock and pull the rod away from you and then bring it back to fight the fish on the Scotties.

Metal vs plastic = DownEast

Both will work great but if you compare them, its a easy choice.
Red Man
Posted 1/30/2005 4:45 PM (#133057 - in reply to #132970)
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Down east, but there is an aluminium out that I have not seen. The name is Bulletproof, don't know who handles them, but Chad Cain has used them for a year on his rig. Later
ToddM
Posted 1/30/2005 9:21 PM (#133084 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: oswego, il
I have the scotty's and like them. They did pop out on me but I modified them so they do not do that anymore. I don't want to mount a rail on the boat so unless downeast comes out with a flushmount, they are sol with me.
muskiekid
Posted 1/31/2005 9:43 AM (#133116 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
Thanks. Here's a link to the bulletproof holders: http://bulletprooftackle.com/ They are some serios looking rod holders. They are about twice the cost of the others. The holders themselves run about $50. Rail mount adapters are $25. $75 is kind of steep. However, its no more than the price of fishing rod or reel or modest cost. Are they worth it? Don't know. I have enclosed an attachement of the Bulletproof rod holders. As you can see, they are serious rod holders. Tom

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tuffy1
Posted 1/31/2005 12:23 PM (#133134 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Racine, Wi
I run Downeasters as well. Never had a problem with them, and they are a piece of cake to install, especially if you have rails. They are easy to get the rods out of as well, and durable as all heck. (unless you hit the dock going about 10-15 mph) LOL
MuskieMike
Posted 1/31/2005 10:05 PM (#133191 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Des Moines IA
I use the clamp on downeast saltys on my 14 ft rowboat...... work great easy to remove rod... with the clamps i can move them from 1 side to the other..... and they are affordable .......


MM
Red Man
Posted 2/1/2005 10:28 PM (#133345 - in reply to #132970)
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The Down-East S-17 mounts on the deck. I don't think I will be going to the Bulletproof. I had one Down-East clamp on break from a stress fracture and one S-17 break from a guy locking the spool with his thumb when I hung a stump. Later
tom fellegy
Posted 2/3/2005 8:14 AM (#133561 - in reply to #132970)
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downeast hands down for me. i had 2 on my last boat and put 4 on my new one. i have 2 downeast and 2 black plastic types on my big boat and found that when the hex socket wares a little bit they will spin in the mount on a strike or hooking the bottom. never had a problem with the downeast...
muskiekid
Posted 2/3/2005 9:08 AM (#133583 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
I'm (most likely) going with the rail mounted type of holders. Anybody have experience with the rail-mounted type? Thanks
tuffy1
Posted 2/3/2005 11:41 AM (#133611 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Racine, Wi
That's what Mike runs on his rig.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 2/3/2005 1:39 PM (#133639 - in reply to #133611)
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
I have 2 rail mounts on each side and 6 clamp-on types for the custom wood on the back sides of my Ranger.

You can see my boat and plenty of pictures on my web site if you are interested. MY BOAT link has a few but the PHOTOS link has plenty also.

http://mikekoepp.com

GregM
Posted 2/3/2005 4:47 PM (#133670 - in reply to #132970)
Subject: RE: Scotties Vs. Downeasters?





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Location: Bagley,MN 56621
looking at the pic of the "bulletproof" ones, it's a pain in the arse getting the long rod handle out of the holder when there is pressure on the rod.

I wish I had a pic of the way a Downeaster clamps the reel seat, but it's a ton easier to release a rod that has pressure on it, the reel seat just pops straight up, no long handle to fight with that could get slack line.

check out the link I posted above, many types of mounts..... flush, rail etc.
muskiekid
Posted 2/4/2005 7:36 AM (#133747 - in reply to #132970)
Subject: RE: Scotties Vs. Downeasters?




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Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
Mike: some great photos and a nice setup on your boat. Wondering.....you list a 9.9 kicker motor. Do you have any idea how fast that motor will propel your boat? I ask this because there are some local lakes that have a 9.9 limit on them and am considering getting a four stroke 9.9 as the main propulsion for a 16 foot boat that I have. The boat (empty) weighs about 600 pounds. Thanks - Tom

Edited by muskiekid 2/4/2005 7:37 AM
Shep
Posted 2/6/2005 8:27 AM (#133935 - in reply to #133561)
Subject: RE: Scotties Vs. Downeasters?





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Downeasters if you're going to rail mount them. No question. I have flush mount Scotties on my boat, and with the holes all drilled, I'll not replace them. They work, but get to be a little annoying unless you do the ToddM fix.

Tom, are you Steve's brother? If so, tell him Shep says hello. Welcome.

Edited by Shep 2/6/2005 8:29 AM
muskiekid
Posted 2/7/2005 8:15 AM (#134017 - in reply to #132970)
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Location: Gaithersburg, Maryland
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Shep
Posted 2/7/2005 9:11 AM (#134027 - in reply to #134017)
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Tom Fellegy, I meant.
tom fellegy
Posted 2/13/2005 9:13 PM (#134904 - in reply to #132970)
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as far as i know, second cousins. the family isn't close, i have never met steve. i have met joe. i did email steve the other day, i haven't got a responce yet.
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