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MuskyTom
Posted 12/18/2004 9:53 AM (#128631)
Subject: Garcia question




Posts: 129


I have always fished Garcia reels. Historically (over 30 years) they have been great.
I use C3, C4, D5, and Tornos. This past season one of the C4s and Tornos stopped re-
engaging after the cast. I got the C4 fixed and it fell apart faster than the Vikings.
I am looking for suggestions:
1. are these fixable?
2. if so, who would you recommend in Mpls?
3. Am I better off in just getting new reels?
4. Should I stay with Garcia, or should I be switching?

This old dog doesn't pick up new tricks quickly, so I
am looking for some suggestions.
Thanks,
Tom
The Handyman
Posted 12/18/2004 10:00 AM (#128637 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 1046


Tom, I had trouble with the C4`s that thumb bar was the culprit. So they went to the factory and I had them change those 6:3 to 5:3 and do a complete rebuild for 18.00 each and they have preformed 100% better. I am sort of stuck in my selection as am a southpaw so mainly stick to Abu lefties. Its something to try!
Rockin' SV
Posted 12/18/2004 10:08 AM (#128639 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 425


Location: Elkhart, IN
Sorry I can't help you with that, but if you don't mind I was wondering what your experience with the D5 has been?
lambeau
Posted 12/18/2004 12:17 PM (#128675 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question


there was a thread about this awhile back...many people (including me on a C3 and TCM) had the same issue this year - not reengaging after the cast when you start to crank.

check out this link - it'll step you through taking your reel apart and will show you a potential cause.

both of my reels had a worn down release arm like what's shown in this link...apparently caused by starting the crank before the lure was stopped moving, thus forcing the gears together.

http://www.timkelly.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lasreel%20maintanence2.htm...

replacement part costs like $3.
check out this link - they sell parts and have reel reel schematics for practically everything to make sure you get the right part.

http://www.fishingreelrepair.com/frames.asp
MuskyTom
Posted 12/18/2004 2:13 PM (#128706 - in reply to #128639)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 129


It was a 5600 D5. I did not like it, just does not feel right.
However, my wife uses it for bass, northerns, and small musky
lures and likes it. She is a good stick and I trust her response.
tom
MuskyTom
Posted 12/18/2004 2:16 PM (#128709 - in reply to #128675)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 129


Mike,
Thanks, I will check it out. Just what I need, another hobby. Although I
could do reel repair and listen to the Vikings lose at the same time.
tom
fishkopp
Posted 12/19/2004 11:02 AM (#128803 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question





Posts: 115


It seems my Garcias have seen better days as well, I still have a few of the pre berkley versions and there'll still kicken , but I'm going to try some other brands . The calcutta is always a winner but can be pricey , I've had luck with okuma as well . I'm going to try a tica for the season and see how she holds up.

Good luck and if you find a winner let us know


Mike
Mark H.
Posted 12/19/2004 6:37 PM (#128887 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 1936


Location: Eau Claire, WI
Tom,

I've worked on my own Garcia's and do some repairs for a few local guys. Most common cause I've found with that is one of two things.

1. The clutch/return arm is worn as stated by Lambeau in previous post. Those arms are like$3 and very easy to replace.

2. Number two most common cause I've found is on reels I've taken apart for other folks. Too much grease or a very dirty reel.

I see #1 more than #2.

I replace the release arms in my personal reels about once every two seasons. On my bucktail rod I will go through two a season with heavy use. I've learned to stop the spool with my thumb and then engauge the reel while the hair is still in the air. Just engauging the reel will eat those arms up in a hurry.

I still maintain for the money, durability and ease of being able to work on them, Garcia is still the best value for the dollar.

Keep rock'n Tom..
Grass
Posted 12/20/2004 1:01 PM (#128957 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 620


Location: Seymour, WI
If your Garcias need service work, send them to the factory in Spirit Lake, IA. They are very fast and give you a list of the work performed. They've never charged me a dime for parts, labor or shipping.

Grass,
RandyW
Posted 12/20/2004 2:51 PM (#128967 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question


I have been using abu's for 25 years now and have never had a problem with service. I have sent my morrum in 4 time's in 2 years and have yet to spend a dime. I sent my C4 and C5MagX in a few months ago and got two brand new in box reels to replace them. My only problem with the later year abu's has been reliability. I purchased a Shimano Cal 400 in early June and have not had a single problem since. I plan to purchase another Cal 400 this winter or maybe a Conquest..The 400 has worked so well..that I have a problem justifying the extra $150. Until abu can get their quality control back the way it was in the 70s and 80s I will stick with Shimano's.

R
BACKLASH
Posted 12/20/2004 3:41 PM (#128973 - in reply to #128631)
Subject: RE: Garcia question




Posts: 172


Tom,

You may want to take a look at the new Shimano Corvalus. For the money it is the reel deal. New diecast aluminum frame. It has the super stopper roller bearing which eliminates backplay for a solid hookset, a non-disengaging levelwind system and the thing I like the most about is the assist stopper which is a back up anti-reverse system that reduces the stress placed on the one-way roller bearing. The only problems I have had with Shimano reels in the past was the roller bearing wearing out and this should take care of the problem. Big muskie baits are tough on them. The new reel in the 400 size will retail for $79.99 and the 300 size at $69.99

Bob
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