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Message Subject: Out of state boat registration
matt collins
Posted 2/15/2005 12:25 PM (#135092)
Subject: Out of state boat registration


I'm sure some of you have purchased a boat from another state. I bought a WI prostaff boat that has a WI registration. How do I go about registering for my IL boat sticker? Thanks in advance, Matt
muskihntr
Posted 2/15/2005 12:30 PM (#135093 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
matt send me a email [email protected]
setme31
Posted 2/15/2005 2:47 PM (#135122 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 516


Location: Kildeer, IL
Any currency exchange will be able to do that for you.
GregM
Posted 2/15/2005 2:51 PM (#135123 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration


just go to your local DMV or DNR. Give them the signed over title or MSO and they will know what to do.

We get lots of Minnesota registered boats here in Wis (as well as Illinois and Iowa), the state will consider it a NEW registration instead of just a transfer, but it can be done none the less.

easy deal..no worries

p.s. try if you can to get the TRAILER MSO (Manufactures Statement Of Origin), most people in Wis throw them away cuz they dont have to register the trailer. In Illinois you will need trailer plates and you will need the trailer MSO to get plates for it. If you dont get the Trailer MSO from previous owner, you can still get plates if the serial number on the frame is readable, but with an MSO it's a lot less hassles.

good luck.
MuskieMike
Posted 2/15/2005 3:11 PM (#135126 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Location: Des Moines IA
Even without the serial #, they can give you a "homemade trailer " title ... Then plates..... just comes down to more $ for Illinois!!!!



MM
muskynightmare
Posted 2/15/2005 9:20 PM (#135168 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 2112


Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
O.K. here is another question,
I currently register my boat in Wi. Let's say I want to fish Mn, or Il. Do I have to register my boat in those states as well?
theedz155
Posted 2/15/2005 9:24 PM (#135170 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 1438


Nope, if it's legal registered and still valid in your home state you are good to go in any other state too.
Kinda like car registration. As long as it's valid at home, it's valid everywhere.
The Handyman
Posted 2/16/2005 6:09 AM (#135188 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration




Posts: 1046


Ya, just don`t forget the Minnie fishing license!
muskynightmare
Posted 2/16/2005 6:23 AM (#135189 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 2112


Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water
Thanx for the info!
Rob
GregM
Posted 2/16/2005 6:56 AM (#135195 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 1189


Location: Bagley,MN 56621
I had one guy not long ago that bought a new boat (Wis resident and Wis boat registration, no trailer plates cuz they are not needed). He wanted to put plates on the trailer cuz he said he got pulled over fishing in Minnesota with his old boat a while ago and got a ticket for having no plates.

Apparently the officer said he needed plates if he was hauling his boat (no matter what state registration it is) in Minnesota..........??????????

I have been through 5 different states with no trailer plates on my Wis registered boat and didnt get pulled over........(didnt give them a reason too either)

I dont believe it is needed when they see the boat has a Wis sticker, thus Wis does not require trailer plates.........under a certain weight (3100 lbs?)

dunno for sure........but I dont intent on getting plates for my trailer when visiting other states.

p.s. dunno about Canadian trailer plate laws, but never got questioned at the border the many times I went through and they weer checking plates.


M1Tanker
Posted 2/16/2005 7:51 AM (#135201 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration




Posts: 16


Location: Michigan's U.P.
One thing to be careful of when you go to register your boat that you bought in another state is taxes. I bought a boat in WI and was charged the MI tax also. When I went to my Secretary of State office they tried to charge me the taxes again because it was purchased out of state...even though they could see I was charged 6%...it didn't say MI tax so I got the run-around.
theedz155
Posted 2/16/2005 9:52 AM (#135216 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 1438


Greg

You are correct as far as registration goes. States have reciprocity with each other regarding registration (and equipment etc). The way it is supposed to work is if it is legal in your state to operate that way, then it should (I stress should) be legal to operate elsewhere. This is covered under 341.409 and 341.41 in Chapter 341 and under Trans Order 146

Wisconsin does not require trailer registration unless the total weight of the trailer and the load it is carrying is in excess of 3000 lbs. This goes for all trailers including boat, snowmobile, enclosed, flatbed, utility etc, etc, etc. Registration is graduated upwards from there depending on how much the total weight of the trailer and load is (this does not include the weight of the towing unit for any standard type tow behind trailer). For example an "A" trailer plate is good up to 4500 pounds. This means that as long as the total weight of the trailer and load never exceeds 4500 pounds for that registration period you can use an "A" plate. A "B" plate is good up to 6000 pounds, "C" plate is good up to 8000 pounds etc. Now remember that the total weight of the load includes gas, equipment, bikes, etc that you are hauling in/on the trailer. Without checking, I kind of figure that when you start getting into the 20 or 21 foot Rangers loaded up with gear you're probably going to need registration, but that is only a guess. What may have happened with that guy that got cited was that his boat, trailer and equipment were over 3000 pounds and therefore subject to registration in Wisconsin. Then he went to another state and happened to get pinched.

One thing to keep in mind is that truck registration is graduated exactly the same way. That includes all fluids, load in the bed, passengers in the passenger compartment etc. Where some people get into trouble is they will take their truck to get it weighed and will get out and weigh it with nothing in it and a 1/4 tank of gas. For example the truck will weigh say 4200 pounds with no passengers in it so they will purchase the cheapest plates they can get, a 4500 pound plate. Then they go fill up the truck with gas, haul 3 passengers and fishing/camping gear including firewood for two weeks. If they are stopped and weighed they are gonna be way overweight and therefore cited.

As a general rule a full sized truck should never have an A plate on it even when it's empty. They are all over 4500 pounds and therefore should have either a B or C plate at least. Also, as a side note a pickup truck should never be registered as an automobile either.

Sorry I got long winded there. Hope this helps.

Edited by theedz155 2/16/2005 10:37 AM
Ball Cap
Posted 2/16/2005 4:04 PM (#135314 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration


MN got rid of plates a year or two ago.

All they have now is a permanent registration sticker that goes on the tongue of the trailer.
castmaster
Posted 2/17/2005 7:54 AM (#135424 - in reply to #135092)
Subject: RE: Out of state boat registration





Posts: 910


Location: Hastings, mn, 55033
MN did go to permanent registration on trailers under 3000 or 3500 lbs. anything over that still needs plates in MN as well.
as a side note, for guys in MN, be sure to take the plate off when you put on the permanent registration decal on the tongue. i had a buddy who spaced off removing the old plate and he had a ticket for displaying invalid registration waiting for him on his truck when he returned to the access.
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