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Location: oswego, il | I am just curious how some of you bid on stuff on ebay. If I see somthing I am interested in but I see the high bidder is somebody I know, I leave it be. I only know a who a few folks are like beav, muskyalan, mauser, plitzzz and raze so if I see them on the merchandise I don't rain on their parade. I did tell somebody on this board once about a bait that I had bid on and come to find out they outbid me. I thought that was kind of crappy. It was nobody in the above.
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| If it is something you want then I wouldn't see anything wrong with bidding on it. If you are willing to bid higher you should be able to. If I was at a regular auction and was putting bids on something I wanted I'd bid as high as I was willing to pay for it no matter who else was bidding for it. If you end up being the high bidder, I would thing the other person is grown up enough to not be mad at you or hold it against you.
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Location: West Bend, WI | I think to out bid your fellow muskiefirster is wrong.Well maybe not wrong but should be avoided.It's just not cool to out bid your buddy,especialy if he showed you the item.But If you really need that Item then bid away!!I had the opportunity to pick up a HR for $30 once until Toddm had informed me that the high bidder was the Beav. So I laid off,I just hope that the favor would be returned in the future.Happy Bidding........ |
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| People bring a lot of strange ideas to E bay with them. I wouldn't care if anyone bid against me on an item. If I see something I want I usually bid whatever I am willing to pay for the item and if I get it fine. Sometimes I bid well below what I feel it is worth because I would like it at that price, but not more than that. I never feel I am in competition with anyone on any item. It is simply a question of what I am willing to pay. If you sit and put bids in as it goes up you tend to get emotionally involved, might make it fun for you, I just don't know.
If you get mad at somebody because they got an item by bidding $1 to $5 more than you did, you are probably mad at yourself for not bidding what you thought it was worth. |
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| Telling someone that you are bidding on a bait and they outbid you is just wrong. Kinda like hooking up with a girl at the bar that you know your buddy's got his eye on, yet you know he can't get her :). On the other hand, I never look at who is the high bidder, but I will now.
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Location: Holly, MI | I'm glad that I don't know who anybody is on eBay.
I bid on tons of stuff but buy very little. I put in a bid that is a deal, but not often is a deal found on eBay. The few items I do win are bought at a bargin. I think if you don't want to bid against your friend then you should come to some kind of agreement between yourselves before the opportunity for friction presents itself. I sell quite a bit on eBay too and love when two bidders get into a little bidding war. The winner is the seller then. If you are going to sell stuff, definatly have the auction end on Sunday night. That is when the most bidders are on and bidding. |
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Location: West Bend, WI | I'm not saying you can't outbid someone! If Beaver was bidding on a 8" hawg for $6.oo with 2 days to go I would out bid his #%@.But when someone is about to walk off with a killer deal.Like 10 min. to go and a HR for $30 you don't want to ruin that for a guy.Just my thought. |
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Location: oswego, il | I just found out I lost out on my bids on two 6" enchanters. I did not recognize the winners name but just the same, I gotsta buss his caps.;-)
I just see it as common courtesy to your friends, plenty of stuff to bid on ebay. |
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Location: Illinois | I would say that in most cases it is every man for himself. When you tell someone (supposedly a friend) about an item and they outbid you then it is crossing the line and I'd be ticked too. It's kind of like telling someone about a store that has one lure that is hard to find and going there only to find your buddy has beat you to it, which has happened to me. Not real good. hj |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Todd:
That could have been me that did that to you and I wouldn't know. I usually use a sniper tool to do my bidding for me. Since I'm relying on a tool to place my first bid at 5 seconds before the auction ends I'm really not watching an auction and therefore don't see if anyone I know is bidding the same item.
If you want to win more auctions and pay less, let a sniping engine do your work for you. I win a ton more auctions with it for less money. If you want some free snipes, send me and email and I'll send you link to get 3 free snipes. |
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Location: Pulaski, WI | What sniper tool do you use? |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | AuctionSniper. |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | Good conversation guys, I can see not bidding on an item you are told about from a friend. But if your searching out there and come a cross a good deal I say go right ahead and bid for it.Now look at the other side of the medal, what if you know the seller? Are you going to raise your maximum bid to help out a buddy? |
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Location: Right behind you (tap, tap) BOOO | I would leave it alone if it were someone I know that was bidding on it. Maybe if we all let each other know what our Ebay hadles are we could watchout a little better. Usually when I go out there I'm mostly looking for the buy now option, that way I don't have to sit and baby sit an auction.
My Ebay handle is m23bauer
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Richard what you are referring to is called Schilling and it is illegal. If Ebay catches anyone doing it they will prosecute. It is happening a lot on Ebay and they are really trying to crack down. |
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| No Luke, SCHILLING is NOT illegal, it is the basic unit of currency in Austria and Somalia.
I have never heard of e bay prosecuting anyone for SHILLING either, though it may be unethical. I think that currently the most severe punishment is to ban the offenders. And as to e bay cracking down on shilling, questionable at best, e bay gets its percentage on shilled auctions as well as honest ones(unless someone attempts to withdraw the shill bid after the auction).
Another comment, sniping will not defeat a higher bid if already placed, thus if you place a maximum bid on a desirable object it must be exceeded by a certain amount for you to lose that object, so sniping will only work against bidders who do not place their maximum bid in early. If I place a maximum bid and you exceed it when you attempt to snipe, you would exceed it anyway so it makes no difference to me. However if you really want something and your sniping bid does not exceed my max you will never get another chance at it. |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | FSF -Shilling may not be illegal but the wire fraud and/or mail fraud that occurs when payment is made as a result of shilling is illegal. Here's some interesting articles for you:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y02/m02/i08/s02
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/Fetterman_indict.htm
http://www.msnbc.com/news/481550.asp?cp1=1
eBay is using software attempting to identify this practice and ban sellers from using eBay in the future that are caught doing it.
Here's a link to their position on it:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/g-shilling.htmlYes I realize that if you have a proxy bid higher then my max sniper bid, you are going to win. However a lot of people don't put a reasonable proxy bid.
Edited by Luke_Chinewalker 3/15/2004 9:54 AM
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| Thanks guys, but if you want to outbid me, go right ahead. I normally don't look at the names of the bidders. If I see something that I like, I bid as high as I'm willing to go and leave it.
Funny thing about the $30 one. It was advertised as a Hughey, but turned out to be a Top Prey. When I brought it to the sellers attention, he was man enough to admit his mistake and sent me 2 of them.
I just found out about sniping, and since I have, I waven't won a thing.
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Location: Mallard Island Lake Vermilion MN | Bidding is bidding.
Fun and who cares?
Win some lose some.
Used to be a lot of deals on EPAY, but it is not so good last few winters.
Not bidding against a bud is Like telling a golaie friend your playing against Friday to let Three slide tonight as I got to up me numbers for the season and get back in the shine of da coaches eye?
Or let my punches land and bleed it up good as the coach wants to send me down to work on me game.
To funny.
T.
www.muskytomsguideservice.com
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I was not talking about Schilling I was refering that Todd said if he sees a buddy bidding he backs off well I say if you see a buddy selling pay more. |
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Location: West Bend, WI | Damm.beav. you got 2 for $30.Next time I'm taking you out!! |
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Location: SOUTHERN..MN | Originally written by Trophymuskie on 2004-03-15 8:19 AM
Good conversation guys, I can see not bidding on an item you are told about from a friend. But if your searching out there and come a cross a good deal I say go right ahead and bid for it.Now look at the other side of the medal, what if you know the seller? Are you going to raise your maximum bid to help out a buddy?
EXCEPT MAYBE A BEST AMERICAN GLOBE OR A FEW OTHERS?
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Location: ashtabula ohio | ive been selling alot of stuff in the past 6 months. mostly bass stuff that i dont use anymore and also muskie stuff that i thin out over the winter. my username is the same as it is here. for whatever thats worth. it never came up{bidding against a buddy}but i guess i would back off...? |
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Location: Downers Grove, IL | I have to say I'm in the same court as those who says they never pay attention to whom they're bidding against. I just don't think to. If I see something I want at a price I'm willing to pay, I'll bid. I lose many, many more than I win because I agree that people get caught up in bidding to the point that they're not even getting a deal but just want to win.
Having said that - I certainly would not outbid a friend on an item he/she alerted me to. That's bush league, IMHO.
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