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Location: Holly, MI | Ok, I'm done messing around. Beware all Muskies. Most of my casting has been with spinnerbaits, crank/twitchbaits, deep divers, and bucktails. I want to learn the glide baits. I sure like the looks of the drop bellies. Should I start with the slow sinking ones instead of a floating one to keep it in the zone? I imagine the hardest part will be slowing down, right? I plan on buying a few and trying a couple I made over the winter. One is a slow sinker (at least in the sink) and the other one just barely floats (but might sink with a leader) head down at about a 45. Is most of the action from rod sweeps down and to each side? Do you have to keep the line tight? Are you fishing them on a higher speed reel?
Be redundant here guys, it will help it sink in and I'll realize what is important. Or does each do things a little different in their signature way? Thanks in advance for the tips. -dave
Edited by lobi 2/29/2004 10:24 PM
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Location: oswego, il | Lobi, you don't want to sweep the rod with a glide bait, you want quick taps to get them going side to side. Make a couple of short casts in clear water so you can see how the bait reacts to what you are doing. It's easy to overwork a glider and get frustrated. Be patient, once you learn a gliders rythim, you can them make it do a few tricks. Not all will do tricks but you can break up their cadence. |
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Location: Holly, MI | ttt
Thanks Todd.
help guys, need more input here. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I try to use a 3" rule, small taps of no more than 3" to start. You may want to try baits like the Power Probe that "walk the dog" on thier own with a straight retrieve. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I am a crazy man with a glider, especially the Slammer Drop belly, the Undertaker,the Wabull, and the H2O. I work them probably twice as fast as most, and very erratically. It works for me! Ask Theedz about this, he can relate it a bit better as one who has seen my weird retrieve. |
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Location: Fond Du lac WI | I love the Jackpot by Poe's
they make like 3 diff sizes looks very easy to use but takes a litle time to get the handle on it.. AND you can cast it about 2 country miles.. I love the long cast on a quite day just before light or at dusk,, I will start half way back with quick snaps to make it get some real noise then slow it to a larger side to side walk the dog and retrieve it that way to almost back to the boat then a few more quick snaps.. in case that follow up needs a bit more to make it hit.
If you can work along side the weedline you can make the jackpot actauly work it self right to the edge after some practice..I also use it to cast into weed holes and i might only get 6 or 7 walks out of it but you would be surprised and what is hidden deep in a weed hole...
Also i take Half of my jackpots and get some shrink tubing and put it on the end trebbile and make the hook stick staight out instead of hanging down and heat the tubing so that the hook stands straight out instead of hanging down i then remove the middle hook and use this one as my more weedless type works pretty good on weedy lakes or a bay you can not get other jerk or glide baits thru just a little tip |
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| There's no describing Steve's retrieve style. It's one of them "Gotta see it or you wouldn't understand" things.
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Location: Freedom, WI | Do not forget to change the length of your pause also. A bait that sinks or hangs on the pause has its place, try different things. Some baits like it slow some fast and some both. |
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Location: Greenfield, WI | Your rod action should be subtle but abrupt. DON'T sweep your rod. Use no more rod movement than you would to work a bass sized zara spook, just more intensity. You can vary the time of pause between your rod (pops) action, to adjust the speed of the retrieve.
Edited by Steve Van Lieshout 3/1/2004 5:12 PM
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Location: oswego, il | Worrall is a glider savant. The first time I met him was at the pewaukee swap meet a few years ago and I had a suspending pig on my table. Just for grins he wanted to see what the gripe was about this bait. He stuck it on a rod and casted it for the first time. If you seen how he worked it, I kid you not, you would have a box full of them. |
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| Slammer Drop Belly Gliders, Phantoms, Reef Hawgs, and many others can be worked with a violent quick stop start retrieve that makes the lures dance erratically side to side. I thought I was crazy doing this and then I see the real pros working the baits even more violently than I do, so go ahead and get crazy!
Steve |
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Location: Southern W.Va. | I probably use a Sledge more than any other jerkbait and I don't believe you can work this bait a wrong way. Long pulls, short snaps all seem to work for me. Phantoms, reef hog and suicks I work a little slower. Maybe toooo slow as I've yet to catch fish on them BUT I've had a couple of REAL NICE fish follow them in to boatside before turning away and laugh at me. Would a faster retreve work better??? Don't know but I love throwing jerkbaits and would probably use them the same way as they show me fish that I probably wouldn't see throwing spinnerbaits or topwaters.
Works for me but what do I know.......
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | There really is no correct or incorrect way to run a glider, experiment and break all the rules. |
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario | What type of action does it have exactly? I know it will vary according to the bait and the user, but what should the bait be doing "typically"? There aren't many glide type baits easily available in my area so I can't easily "test" them to learn their action. |
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