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| Hey All, I am fishing a river that is fairly shallow but gets deep in certain sections. I have been looking at Spring Bull Dawgs, Curly Sues, Super Ds, and suzy suckers. There are no monsters (50''+) but definitely some in the 40s. Water is mostly clear, murky at times. Any of the lures above better than the others? Any colors or sizes you prefer? what have your experiences with any of these lures been like> My main debate is a spring bulldawg vs. a curly sue since they are the same price, and maybe get a cheap Super D. |
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Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota | If I were only going to have two I’d get a shallow regular size Medusa and a regular weight mag dawg. If I was only going to have one size of rubber it would be mag dawg/standard dusa. Just because your fishing a river with 40’s in it doesn’t mean you need to go to tiny baits, you’d be amazed how many tiny pike will eat a pounder or monster Medusa. Another good option would be a shallow red October tube either in 7.5 or 10” |
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Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota | Double post
Edited by Ogandrews 5/19/2022 7:03 PM
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Location: NW WI | What's your definition of shallow and deep? What kind of depth range, rock,timber, and vegetation are we looking at? Maybe state your system your speaking of and it's very likely someone here will provide you with even greater advice.
In regard to color, I've always done better with Natural patterns (brown,black,gold,silver, sometimes with a bright highlight) on heavily vegetated and murky rivers. Sometimes bright whites have worked, but " bright clown-esque" patterns haven't been productive at all. |
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Location: oswego, il | A hardhead has screw in weights so you can change them out according to the depth you are fishing |
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| Deep is like 5-8 feet, shallow is anything less. The bottom is pretty rocky, mostly small rocks. Not much vegetation or timber to speak of. I'd be fishing these rubbers in the 4-8 ft range. Thank you! |
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| Shallow regular dog (the one with the hole in the dorsal). |
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Location: NW WI | I got the curly Sue with the spinner bait arm on it, looks enticing, but I have yet to have a follow on it.
It runs too deep for your application.
Like TCESOX said, shallow Reg Dawg, nothing wrong with a spring dawg or even a micro dawg. I just caught a 35" pike out of 9ft last week snap yo-yoing a micro dawg on a small non-musky lake. Pretty certain though he would've eaten any model, big girl was thick.
Even a standard weight dawg will work for you if your just throwing it in your deep stretches, but the shallow model will be more forgiving if your wanting to throw it at bank, burn it for a few cranks than jerk it back giving it more hang time as you get deep.
I also think you should be open to Poseidons,Swimming Dawgs, paddle tail sues. |
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Location: MN | Rubber would be low on my list for the type of river you describe. I’d be tossing bucktails, topwaters and cranks. Spinnerbaits if weedy.
I prefer beavers over rubber when I want that type of presentation. Very versatile bait with the changeable weights. |
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Location: PA Angler | I make my own and done good with big craw patterns and bigger jigs. |
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