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| zboudreau |
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Posts: 429 | MuskieFIRST.com To Launch the World Muskie Rankings (WMR) Rhinelander, WI - Professional Muskie Fishing will take another step forward this spring, as OutdoorsFIRST applies it's angler ranking technology to the muskie tournament world. Titled the "World Muskie Rankings", they are due to debut in March of 2004. Based upon OutdoorsFIRST's World Walleye Ranking methodology, the World Muskie Rankings (WMR) will rank anglers based upon the tournament performances of muskie fishing teams over a multi-year span of time, and across multiple, professional-level team circuits. "The MWR adds another dimension to muskie tournament performance beyond "the win" or the big fish," said Zach Boudreau, developer of the system. "It reveals who has performed consistently well over a relevant period of time, and who consistently puts fish in the boat. Chances are, if you are doing this on a regular basis, the wins will come. As the industry grows, it will also be a valuable tool for sponsors, to evaluate the pure performance aspects of an individual, from overall consistency to an angler's propensity for the big win." Many factors are built into the final ranking system, including tournament finish, number of fish caught, number of tournaments fished, and the size of fish. The system is also fluid, changing every time a new tournament is held or when an old tournament drops off the back end of the ranking period. The ranking draws entirely from OutdoorsFIRST's LeaderBoard system, initially developed to provide live online scoring of walleye tournaments in the late 1990's. "What we did was adapt the existing technology to accept muskie tournaments," stated Boudreau. "This presented a challenge; musky tournaments are scored in inches instead of pounds, individual fish are scored vs daily cumulative weights, and multiple scoring formulas exist within the industry to determine place, such as the Muskies Inc. formula or Hartman's formula." The result was a LeaderBoard system which can accept any type of weight or length data, apply a formula based on any scoring system in place today, and display the results right down to each individual fish. "As a result of this process we've quietly built one of the largest databases of freshwater fishing tournament results available anywhere. Now we're just putting that data to work for the industry," Boudreau added. Steve Worrall of OutdoorsFIRST thinks the rankings will add great value to a tournament industry looking to define its leaders. "The musky tournament scene is ready for this. Muskie fishing is one of the only true growth segments in freshwater fishing today. There is a established pro-level circuit in the PMTT and a number of regional circuits that have been operating successfully and drawing large fields for many years. In 2004 there's even a musky tournament featuring a $250,000 purse, with $100,000 going to the winner. Sure, participants are still fishing for their entry fees in that tournament, but the fact that it can be filled demonstrates the high interest level in these types of events." MuskieFIRST.com, headquartered in Rhinelander, WI, is a leading provider of muskie industry news, events, and tournament information. MuskieFIRST.com is part of the OutdoorsFirst Network of sites, including WalleyeFIRST.com, IceFishingFIRST.com, and TackleFIRST.com. For additional information about OutdoorsFIRST Media or its sites contact Steve Worrall at [email protected] or (715) 362-1760. | ||
| Steve Van Lieshout |
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Posts: 1916 Location: Greenfield, WI | Before the governing bodies of the selection process get overwhelmed in the determination of the appropriate rankings, I would like to stake my claim to my undisputed rank of "two after dead last!". I've earned it! | ||
| zboudreau |
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Posts: 429 | For insight into our Walleye Ranking System go to http://walleye.outdoorsfirst.com/rankings.asp . Be sure to click on some of the names in the rankings to view some of the summary and analysis we do for each angler. Zach | ||
| SharpHooks |
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Posts: 212 Location: Madison, WI | Is there a Men's and Women's list? Will there be a team listing? | ||
| zboudreau |
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Posts: 429 | It is a team ranking system, gender neutral. Zach | ||
| MRoberts |
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Posts: 714 Location: Rhinelander, WI | I want to be the first to congratulate Phil and Pete on there number one ranking. I am curious what events will be used in the ranking. When I go to the leader board I see only PMTT and WMT events. I know you had a leader board for the Hoday in years past and other tourneys. What events are going to be used to compile your ranking. I see on the Walleye list you use the two major tours. Are the Musky events up to that caliber. Nail A Pig! Mike | ||
| sworrall |
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Posts: 32958 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | MuskieFIRST will release the standards we have accepted for an event to be considered and entered into in the World Muskie Rankings in detail when the Rankings are announced. We have a set of strict guidelines, and there will be no exceptions. | ||
| Steve Van Lieshout |
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Posts: 1916 Location: Greenfield, WI | I was just wondering, will I get a plaque for my ranking? What will happen if my ranking drops? Will I be relagated to the "Rubber-lipped-trout-first.com" website? These are exciting times for me, after all this time, to be recognised by my peers, ........or is that recognised on a pier?...Oh well, either way it is a good thing.....I think! Edited by Steve Van Lieshout 1/24/2004 7:26 AM | ||
| Don Pfeiffer |
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Posts: 929 Location: Rhinelander. | Very Interesting, this will make for a few heated debates I am sure. I am sure this is a huge undertaking and I thank muskiefirst for taking this large task on. Good luck and a great job. Don Pfeiffer (Pfeiff) | ||
| Luke_Chinewalker |
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Location: Minneapolis, MN | Steve: How do you handicap people that have been fishing tournaments on your system for several years so the guys that just get started a few years from now have an even playing field? OR is that not the intent of this system? | ||
| MuskieFIRST |
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Posts: 507 | You have to have fished a minimum number of tournaments over the previous 2 years from the current date to be eligible to be ranked. So, you will not be eligible to be ranked until you have 2 consecutive years of data in a minimum number of tournaments built up. The Ranking is a 2 year average, it changes after every tournament. Tournaments you fished 3 years or 10 years ago don't count. It is a CURRENT ranking system, not a historical account of who the best muskie fisherman of all time is. It is a mathematical performance comparison of those who have chosen the be in the muskie tournament game. Teams are ranked, given a confidence factor, then re-ranked (what we like to call adjusted) based upon the statistical validity of their score. This produces the final ranking. Rankings change every time a new eligible tournament is completed, or when an eligible tournament becomes more than 2 years old. Edited by MuskieFIRST 1/28/2004 2:05 PM | ||
| Jim Komar |
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Posts: 26 Location: Pewaukee, WI | Where will the data be compiled from.........will the particular tournaments have to report the stats or will it be coming from the fisherman themselves..............???????? Does the 2 years start today or will it include the previous 2 years?? | ||
| MuskieFIRST |
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Posts: 507 | 2 years prior to the current date. We already have 90% of the data, it is collected and entered into our leaderboard system "Live" as it happens. Any data we are missing from eligible circuits will come from the circuit organizers. All future tournaments in the MWR system will have data entered on the tournament date. The entire system is designed to be real-time. Where are we in the process? We are currently identifying eligible circuits/tournaments. We also have a preliminary formula developed and have taken it through a few dry runs using PMTT and "dummy" data only. As an aside, the system is also integrated with a new Fantasy Muskie Fishing application. Over the past few years we have run kindof a crude PMTT Fantasy Fishing contest through our message board, calculating scores by hand. It will now be integrated with the LeaderBoard and WMR. It will include research tools to allow you to make the best picks possible by presenting many different views of the historical data from all the different tournaments. So get ready to sign up and make your picks! Edited by MuskieFIRST 1/28/2004 3:07 PM | ||
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