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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider
 
Message Subject: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider
pickolish1
Posted 8/20/2021 4:00 PM (#984218)
Subject: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




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You have one cast for an Esox.... which do you prefer.
And does color really matter????
Kirby Budrow
Posted 8/20/2021 4:05 PM (#984219 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider





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Location: Chisholm, MN
I have caught more fish on the wopper plopper myself. And no, color doesn't matter to me.
ToddM
Posted 8/20/2021 5:56 PM (#984222 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider





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Location: oswego, il
Both are great baits and have caught many fish. I netted 3 fish in 4 casts one time when a buddy of mine was throwing a topraider. Both have the nice pop.
sworrall
Posted 8/20/2021 6:14 PM (#984224 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Either. Both catch muskies, and both will treat you well. Color not a big issue with a surface bait.
TCESOX
Posted 8/20/2021 7:35 PM (#984228 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider





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Only one cast, flip a coin. Either is as likely to get bit as the other. Only one for a fishing trip, I would go with the plopper. I like the rubber tail. Won't get bent out of shape.
true tiger tamer
Posted 8/21/2021 12:27 PM (#984239 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




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Ploppers have a deeper plop that I feel bigger muskies often prefer. They also stay in tune.
pickolish1
Posted 8/21/2021 1:27 PM (#984240 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




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Winner... The plopper.
Ranger
Posted 8/22/2021 12:30 PM (#984256 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider





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I have an old Topraider that is one of my most productive baits. The thru wire is both slightly bent and also corroded and the bait doesn't just plop, it also yelps like a turkey. "Hurk hurk hurk hurk" all the way back to the boat. Somebody (MuskieFool?) told me that frightened ducklings repeatedly chirp as they escape a predator and so my particular bait is golden for the sound it makes.

Not sure about this, anybody have ideas?
North of 8
Posted 8/22/2021 2:57 PM (#984258 - in reply to #984256)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




Ranger - 8/22/2021 12:30 PM

I have an old Topraider that is one of my most productive baits. The thru wire is both slightly bent and also corroded and the bait doesn't just plop, it also yelps like a turkey. "Hurk hurk hurk hurk" all the way back to the boat. Somebody (MuskieFool?) told me that frightened ducklings repeatedly chirp as they escape a predator and so my particular bait is golden for the sound it makes.

Not sure about this, anybody have ideas?


Been close to large group of ducklings a couple times in a kayak and they do have a higher pitched alarm chirp, bleet, whatever you want to call it. Come around a bend in the river/creek and bump them. Mom quacks, they also make noise.
TCESOX
Posted 8/22/2021 3:41 PM (#984262 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider





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My guess would be that the extra scraping or squawking sound of your lure, could definitely be an extra attractant, but not sure about it sounding similar to a squealing/squawking duckling trying to escape. It may sound similar to us, as they definitely vocalize loudly when fleeing, but I'm not sure how much sound (vocalizations, etc.) traveling through the air, really penetrates under water. I don't think an underwater predator would hear/feel much of that. A sound like tapping the hull of your boat, or the scraping of the lure, on the through wire, would be a lot more noticeable under water, as the hull of the boat, or the lure itself, is in the water, and the sound would transmit much better. The frantic behavior of a fleeing duckling, would be much more of an attractant, than their vocalization, I would think. Just speculating.
southern comfort
Posted 8/23/2021 8:59 AM (#984282 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




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I have had success with both. However I will say the old Topraider with rattles inside have been way more effective for me.
vegas492
Posted 8/23/2021 9:14 AM (#984284 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




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If only one cast? Topraider. But if I have to cast it for more than one day, I'll need extra Raiders, or the Plopper. Raiders nowadays tend to sink after a few fish eat them.
But, I happily buy more.
FlyPiker
Posted 8/24/2021 9:27 AM (#984322 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




Posts: 386


I like poppers for the ease of clip on and cast. New tuning necessary.
pickolish1
Posted 8/24/2021 5:05 PM (#984342 - in reply to #984218)
Subject: Re: The legendary Wopper Plopper vs the venerable Bucher top raider




Posts: 60


Wow, The jury is still out on this issue.....
I thought it was Ploppers hands down at first, not now....... Wow!
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